atom feed31 messages in at.iem.pd-devRe: [PD-dev] uninitialized values bug
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Subject:Re: [PD-dev] uninitialized values bug
From:Tim Blechmann (TimB@gmx.net)
Date:Oct 6, 2005 12:35:55 pm
List:at.iem.pd-dev

Why should I make efforts to contribute to a branch I don't plan to continue to use, and that I wish gets replaced by devel_0_39 in day-to-day use?

But I can definitely tell you now that any interest I might have had in helping the devel/inpure/whatever branch is rapidly evaporating. You guys need to come down off your high horses, you are all using Miller's Pd. Most of the code in that branch was still written by Miller.

yes, i second that. furthermore, i regret the arrogant attitude of people who think they invented a brand new program because they changed the interface.. don't judge a book by the cover...

don't forget that Miller is very busy, that he is making good efforts to incorporate useful changes and that he is a philosopher and writer so he doesn't spend all his time on code.

i'm just interested in having a click-free pd, and i posted some patches for having a threaded soundfiler that 2 years ago, i still using these patches.

well, pd is a piece of software, that is able to do a few things, and is lacking a lot of features ... (especially, it's not designed to be click-free)

a user interface is a pretty important part of the software, since it's the "interface" to the "user" ... a bit more, than the cover of a book. beside that, there are more severe changes in devel, (dsp) scheduling, threading, that aim to a clean solution, but they won't result in a clean solution, if 20000 groups of developers are inventing 20001 wheels ... some other changes that would result in a click-free software will require some even larger changes, not to mention that it will most likely collide with other changes, if it's not coordinated.

personally i have to admit, that i'm really fed up with this whole discussion. pd will probably me my audio programming language for the next few years, but it will definitely not be my long-term solution!

cheers ... tim

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