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| Matthew Dillon | Jun 23, 2000 11:36 am | |
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| Matthew Dillon | Jun 25, 2000 10:24 am | |
| Jake Burkholder | Jun 25, 2000 11:19 am | |
| Chuck Paterson | Jun 26, 2000 9:50 am | |
| Matthew Dillon | Jun 27, 2000 10:41 am | |
| Chuck Paterson | Jun 27, 2000 11:19 am | |
| Kevin Van Maren | Jun 29, 2000 1:52 pm | |
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| Jake Burkholder | Jul 3, 2000 1:14 pm | |
| Jake Burkholder | Jul 5, 2000 2:23 am | |
| Matthew Dillon | Jul 5, 2000 9:43 am | |
| Chuck Paterson | Jul 5, 2000 9:52 am | |
| Chuck Paterson | Jul 5, 2000 9:57 am | |
| Luoqi Chen | Jul 5, 2000 10:29 am | |
| Matthew Dillon | Jul 5, 2000 11:28 am | |
| Greg Lehey | Jul 5, 2000 4:20 pm | |
| Doug Rabson | Jul 6, 2000 1:26 am | |
| Matthew Dillon | Jul 6, 2000 10:43 am | |
| Greg Lehey | Jul 22, 2000 2:26 am | |
| Matthew Dillon | Jul 22, 2000 9:20 am | |
| Chuck Paterson | Jul 22, 2000 9:57 am | |
| Bruce Evans | Jul 22, 2000 10:36 am | |
| Greg Lehey | Jul 23, 2000 8:14 pm | |
| Bruce Evans | Jul 24, 2000 1:08 am | |
| Chuck Paterson | Jul 24, 2000 6:43 am | |
| Matthew Dillon | Jul 24, 2000 9:16 am |
| Subject: | Re: Stepping on Toes | |
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| From: | Chuck Paterson (cp...@bsdi.com) | |
| Date: | Jun 26, 2000 9:50:22 am | |
| List: | org.freebsd.freebsd-smp | |
} } Even with interrupt threads we have the GiantMutex issue... the same } issue that we have with our current MP implementation. We cannot remove } SPL's until we remove the GiantMutex, and we cannot remove GiantMutex } without major modifications to just about every single source file in sys/ }
In general this isn't true. If you get to the point where
1) All entrance to unsafe code is proteced by Giant. 2) Tsleep and friend if any release Giant when they a process is suspended and re-acquire it on exit 3) Interrupts have a context to run in. 4) You have one or more scheduling locks.
Then you can just turn spls into a nop. There is lots of hand waving in regards to details at this point. BSD/OS SMPng is the existance proof.
It seems like one of the major problems in retaining spls during the change over period is that they don't much useful, and effectively push everything under Giant.
Grabbing a spl will only block interrupts, it will not give any protection against an interrupt thread which has already started.
This means that any device which might be blocked by splbio() can not be brought out from under the Giant lock until all instances of splbio have been removed.
Chuck
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