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| Robison, Dave | Feb 17, 2012 2:05 pm | |
| Chuck Swiger | Feb 17, 2012 2:17 pm | |
| Devin Teske | Feb 17, 2012 2:34 pm | |
| Maxim Khitrov | Feb 17, 2012 2:40 pm | |
| Douglas Carmichael | Feb 17, 2012 2:42 pm | |
| Polytropon | Feb 17, 2012 2:46 pm | |
| Jerry McAllister | Feb 17, 2012 2:48 pm | |
| Douglas Carmichael | Feb 17, 2012 2:50 pm | |
| Jerry McAllister | Feb 17, 2012 2:53 pm | |
| Da Rock | Feb 17, 2012 2:54 pm | |
| Devin Teske | Feb 17, 2012 3:11 pm | |
| Julian H. Stacey | Feb 17, 2012 3:19 pm | |
| Polytropon | Feb 17, 2012 3:22 pm | |
| Robison, Dave | Feb 17, 2012 3:24 pm | |
| Da Rock | Feb 17, 2012 3:29 pm | |
| Chris Hill | Feb 17, 2012 3:49 pm | |
| Chuck Swiger | Feb 17, 2012 3:55 pm | |
| Devin Teske | Feb 17, 2012 4:02 pm | |
| Robison, Dave | Feb 17, 2012 4:09 pm | |
| Devin Teske | Feb 17, 2012 4:11 pm | |
| Chuck Swiger | Feb 17, 2012 4:40 pm | |
| Devin Teske | Feb 17, 2012 4:54 pm | |
| Da Rock | Feb 17, 2012 4:54 pm | |
| Da Rock | Feb 17, 2012 4:59 pm | |
| Devin Teske | Feb 17, 2012 5:05 pm | |
| Devin Teske | Feb 17, 2012 5:09 pm | |
| Chuck Swiger | Feb 17, 2012 5:13 pm | |
| David Brodbeck | Feb 17, 2012 5:17 pm | |
| Da Rock | Feb 17, 2012 5:17 pm | |
| Doug Hardie | Feb 17, 2012 5:50 pm | |
| Erich Dollansky | Feb 17, 2012 6:08 pm | |
| Daniel Staal | Feb 17, 2012 6:16 pm | |
| Da Rock | Feb 17, 2012 7:16 pm | |
| Leslie Jensen | Feb 17, 2012 9:44 pm | |
| Lars Eighner | Feb 17, 2012 10:05 pm | |
| Robert Bonomi | Feb 17, 2012 10:32 pm | |
| Robert Bonomi | Feb 17, 2012 11:15 pm | |
| Erich Dollansky | Feb 17, 2012 11:47 pm | |
| Doug Hardie | Feb 17, 2012 11:54 pm | |
| Matthew Seaman | Feb 18, 2012 12:39 am | |
| Polytropon | Feb 18, 2012 2:12 am | |
| Polytropon | Feb 18, 2012 2:22 am | |
| Da Rock | Feb 18, 2012 2:43 am | |
| Damien Fleuriot | Feb 18, 2012 3:06 am | |
| Damien Fleuriot | Feb 18, 2012 3:10 am | |
| Matthew Seaman | Feb 18, 2012 3:23 am | |
| Da Rock | Feb 18, 2012 3:36 am | |
| Polytropon | Feb 18, 2012 3:39 am | |
| Da Rock | Feb 18, 2012 3:56 am | |
| Matthew Seaman | Feb 18, 2012 5:38 am | |
| Da Rock | Feb 18, 2012 5:47 am | |
| Matthew Seaman | Feb 18, 2012 6:28 am | |
| Robert Bonomi | Feb 18, 2012 6:45 am | |
| RW | Feb 18, 2012 6:54 am | |
| Da Rock | Feb 18, 2012 6:54 am | |
| Polytropon | Feb 18, 2012 8:26 am | |
| Jerry McAllister | Feb 18, 2012 1:06 pm | |
| Jerry McAllister | Feb 18, 2012 1:33 pm | |
| Michael Sierchio | Feb 18, 2012 2:45 pm | |
| Matthew Story | Feb 18, 2012 3:08 pm | |
| Daniel Staal | Feb 18, 2012 3:10 pm | |
| Michael Sierchio | Feb 18, 2012 3:31 pm | |
| Erich Dollansky | Feb 18, 2012 5:03 pm | |
| Jerry McAllister | Feb 18, 2012 6:30 pm | |
| Erich Dollansky | Feb 18, 2012 7:54 pm | |
| Carl Johnson | Feb 18, 2012 8:39 pm | |
| Erich Dollansky | Feb 18, 2012 9:26 pm | |
| Stephen Cook | Feb 18, 2012 11:21 pm | |
| Julian H. Stacey | Feb 19, 2012 6:29 am | |
| Daniel Staal | Feb 19, 2012 8:10 am | |
| parv | Feb 19, 2012 8:43 am | |
| Julian H. Stacey | Feb 19, 2012 10:37 am | |
| Da Rock | Feb 20, 2012 6:44 am | |
| Jerry McAllister | Feb 20, 2012 6:47 am | |
| Jerry McAllister | Feb 20, 2012 6:55 am | |
| Jerry McAllister | Feb 20, 2012 6:58 am | |
| Julian H. Stacey | Feb 20, 2012 8:14 am | |
| Jerry McAllister | Feb 20, 2012 8:34 am | |
| Devin Teske | Feb 20, 2012 8:36 am | |
| Julian H. Stacey | Feb 20, 2012 9:43 am | |
| Robison, Dave | Feb 20, 2012 1:43 pm | |
| Paul Mather | Feb 20, 2012 2:05 pm | |
| Erich Dollansky | Feb 20, 2012 6:09 pm | |
| Chip Camden | Feb 20, 2012 9:25 pm | |
| Erich Dollansky | Feb 20, 2012 9:40 pm | |
| Robert Bonomi | Feb 20, 2012 10:06 pm | |
| Chip Camden | Feb 20, 2012 10:19 pm | |
| Doug Hardie | Feb 20, 2012 10:52 pm | |
| Erich Dollansky | Feb 20, 2012 11:37 pm | |
| Erich Dollansky | Feb 20, 2012 11:43 pm | |
| Robert Bonomi | Feb 21, 2012 4:38 am | |
| Polytropon | Feb 21, 2012 7:18 am | |
| Jerry McAllister | Feb 21, 2012 7:56 am | |
| per...@pluto.rain.com | Feb 21, 2012 10:13 am | |
| David Brodbeck | Feb 21, 2012 11:47 am | |
| Erich Dollansky | Feb 21, 2012 4:43 pm | |
| Erich Dollansky | Feb 21, 2012 4:50 pm |
| Subject: | RE: One or Four? | |
|---|---|---|
| From: | Devin Teske (devi...@fisglobal.com) | |
| Date: | Feb 17, 2012 3:11:09 pm | |
| List: | org.freebsd.freebsd-questions | |
-----Original Message----- From: owne...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- ques...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jerry McAllister Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 2:53 PM To: Polytropon Cc: davi...@fisglobal.com; free...@freebsd.org Subject: Re: One or Four?
Let the majority decide which layout is preferred for the default.
Why not add a selection to the installer, something like this:
Partition scheme ----------------
[ ] all in one + swap Create one partition containing all subtrees plus one swap partition.
[ ] separate partitioning + swap Create /, /var, /tmp and /usr (including home) partitions plus one swap partition.
[ ] user-defined Make your own partitioning selection manually.
Of course, the default SIZES for second choice should be reasonable.
Yes. Yes. This is the way to go.
I'd agree, but I'd like to envision a modular approach where multiple schemes can be maintained.
E.g. a menu containing...
"Scheme 1: / + swap + /tmp" "Scheme 2: / + swap + /tmp + /var" "Scheme 3: / + swap + /tmp + /var + /usr" "Scheme 4: / + swap + /tmp + /var + /usr + /home"
NOTE: See what I did there? There is no option for "/ ", explanation below.
I'm actually thinking that "not having a separate /tmp" is:
a. A security issue
/tmp is by-default out-of-the-box world-writable (perms 1777). Making this world-writable bucket part of "/" seems silly both for Desktops and Servers alike.
b. A nuisance
As "Da Rock" points out, ... recovering your system from a file-system-full-event when using "single-/" is just as difficult regardless of Desktop versus Server. Having "/tmp" alleviates the difficulty.
c. A performance issue
I'm surprised nobody has pointed out the physical performance limitations of rotating disks with respect to physical location of partitions on the spindle. Granted, seek times are light years beyond what they used to be, but allocating smaller "swap" and "tmp" partitions close to the center of the spindle is a performance-enhancing setup just as much as it is for protecting against file-system-full problems (security events included).
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I'd argue that there should never be a single-"/" unless you are prepared to deal with a truly 100%-full filesystem problem (especially considering that Desktop users whom select the default-everything are often not skilled enough to deal with that situation). If someone truly wants a single "/" and nothing else, there's manual partitioning (which should prove pretty easy in the event that you're only creating one partition and nothing else).
-- Devin
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