Dave Booz joined anonymous joined anonymous morphed into Pete Walker Uday Joshi joined Sriram joined Sriram morphed into Sriram Narasimhan Michael Beisiegel joined Ron Barack joined Roberto Chinnici joined Peter Peshev joined Michael Rowley joined Martin C joined Mike Edwards joined Martin C left Mike Edwards: we should club together and buy Henning a new phone Mike Edwards: Martin C joined Martin C joined anonymous joined anonymous morphed into anish Pradeep Simha joined Michael Beisiegel: agenda for this call http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/event.php?event_id=16635 Michael Beisiegel: 1. Preliminaries

- Roll Call http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=sca-j - Appointment of scribe List attached below - Agenda bashing - Approval of minutes from previous meeting(s) http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200710/msg00003.html

2. New Issues (most carried over from last week)

@AllowsPassByReference requires more detailed description Proposer: Henning http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200709/msg00035.html

Support for JAX-WS style async methods Proposer: Henning http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200709/msg00036.html

Concurrency model for Service Reference instances Proposer: Henning http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200709/msg00037.html

Representation of references with multiplicity > 1 on Component Context API Proposer: Henning http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200709/msg00038.html

State sharing between ServiceReference and type-safereference Proposer: Simon http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200709/msg00039.html

Semantics of getCallbackID() are underspecified Proposer: Simon http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200709/msg00040.html

Relation between conversational annotation and scope conversation Proposer: Peter P http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200709/msg00046.html

EJB remove method on EJBHome Proposer: Michael R http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200710/msg00004.html

3. Issues with proposals (Real Work!)

ISSUE 3 - Local services expose implementation classes as their type Proposal from: Michael R http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-3

4. Choice of issues to tackle next week

Pick issues to work on at next week's call (tentatively) in order to give proposers time to prepare their proposals.

5. Adjourn henning joined Michael Beisiegel: anish: scribe: Michael Beisiegel Michael Beisiegel: thx Michael Beisiegel: topic: - Approval of minutes from previous meeting(s) http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200710/msg00003.html Michael Beisiegel: Mike R moves to accept minutes from last week Michael Beisiegel: Mike E: seconds Sanjay joined Michael Beisiegel: Simon N ammends to accept minutes updated with role Michael Beisiegel: Dave B seconds anish oasis kavi mailing list archive does not set the filename/content-type correctly Sanjay: chairs, could you please add me to the roll Michael Rowley: The roll from last week is: Michael Rowley: Michael Rowley BEA Systems, Inc. Jean-Sebastien Delfino IBM Mike Edwards IBM Simon Nash IBM Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation Michael Keith Oracle Corporation Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation Jeff Mischkinsky Oracle Corporation Ron Barack SAP AG* Henning Blohm SAP AG* Sanjay Patil SAP AG* Peter Peshev SAP AG* Roberto Chinnici Sun Microsystems Peter Walker Sun Microsystems Sriram Narasimhan TIBCO Software Inc. Pradeep Simha TIBCO Software Inc. Michael Beisiegel: resolution: unonimous consent anish every attachement is application/octet-stream anish very frustrating Michael Beisiegel: topic: new issues Mike Keith joined Michael Beisiegel: @AllowsPassByReference requires more detailed description Proposer: Henning http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200709/msg00035.html Mike Keith joined Michael Beisiegel: Henning moves to accep that issue Michael Beisiegel: Anish seonds Michael Beisiegel: resolution: unanimous consent anish: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200709/msg00036.html Michael Beisiegel: next issue Michael Beisiegel: Support for JAX-WS style async methods Proposer: Henning http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200709/msg00036.html Michael Beisiegel: Henning moves to accept that issue Michael Beisiegel: Dave B seconds Michael Beisiegel: resolution: unanimous consent Michael Beisiegel: next issue Michael Beisiegel: Concurrency model for Service Reference instances Proposer: Henning http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200709/msg00037.html Simon Nash joined Michael Beisiegel: Henning moves to accept this issue Michael Beisiegel: Sirarm N seconds Michael Beisiegel: resolution: unanimous consent Michael Beisiegel: next issue Michael Beisiegel: Representation of references with multiplicity > 1 on Component Context API Proposer: Henning http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200709/msg00038.html Michael Beisiegel: Henning moves to accept this issue Michael Beisiegel: Anish seconds Michael Beisiegel: resolution: unanimous consent Michael Beisiegel: next issue Michael Beisiegel: State sharing between ServiceReference and type-safereference Proposer: Simon http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200709/msg00039.html Michael Beisiegel: Simon moves to accept this issue Michael Beisiegel: Henning seconds Michael Beisiegel: resolution: unanimous consent Michael Beisiegel: next issue Michael Beisiegel: Semantics of getCallbackID() are underspecified Proposer: Simon http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200709/msg00040.html Michael Beisiegel: Mike R question: diff binding different runtimes different semantics how id is created Michael Beisiegel: Simon N spec need to be more prescriptive Michael Beisiegel: Simon moves to accept this issue Michael Beisiegel: Henning seconds Mike Edwards: hmm Michael Beisiegel: resolution: unanimous consent Michael Beisiegel: next issue Michael Beisiegel: Relation between conversational annotation and scope conversation Proposer: Peter P http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200709/msg00046.html anish joined Michael Beisiegel: Simon N would be good to have list of things that are not clear Michael Beisiegel: Mike E need to have description of combinations anish wasn't this an issue in osoa? anish didn't we already resolve this? Michael Beisiegel: Action for Peter P follow up once this is open to put more detail into this Michael Beisiegel: Henning, should this issue also discuss creation of con ids Michael Beisiegel: Peter P no Michael Beisiegel: Peter Peshev moves to accept this issue Michael Beisiegel: Mike E seconds Michael Beisiegel: resolution: unanimous consent Michael Beisiegel: next issue Michael Beisiegel: EJB remove method on EJBHome Proposer: Michael R http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200710/msg00004.html Peter Peshev joined Michael Beisiegel: Mike R moves to accept this issue Michael Beisiegel: Dave B seconds Michael Beisiegel: resolution: unanimous consent Michael Beisiegel: Topic: 3. Issues with proposals (Real Work!) Michael Beisiegel: Mike R proposes to modify agenda to go to the ejb home issue 1st Michael Beisiegel: Mike R moves to accept proposal for issue 5 Michael Beisiegel: Mike Keith seconds Michael Beisiegel: resolution: unanimous consent Michael Beisiegel: on to issue #3 Michael Beisiegel: ISSUE 3 - Local services expose implementation classes as their type Proposal from: Michael R http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-3 Michael Beisiegel: Action to editors: Dave Booz volunteers to do the editing work for issue #5 Michael Rowley: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/documents.php Jason Kinner joined Michael Beisiegel: we skip 3 and do it next week Michael Beisiegel: Topic: 4. Choice of issues to tackle next week Michael Beisiegel: Mike R who want to volunteer to present proposal for their issues Michael Beisiegel: Henning wants to do #8 Martin C left Michael Beisiegel: Mike R want to do #3 Michael Beisiegel: Henning will also do #9 Uday Joshi left