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| Subject: | Re: [docbook] Add topic element to DocBook? | |
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| From: | Steven Cogorno (Stev...@Sun.COM) | |
| Date: | Oct 29, 2006 2:13:54 pm | |
| List: | org.oasis-open.lists.docbook | |
On Oct 27, 2006, at 12:36 PM, Rowland, Larry wrote:
Aren't all of the DocBook elements you identified that have semantic structures block elements?
They are, but I don't see what difference that makes...
I really like the task element that was added to DocBook, since it does exactly what you described -- provides a richer semantic environment for grouping the information related to a procedure -- I have had to do the same thing repeatedly in documenting products. In terms of processing prerequisites and such differently, couldn't the role or remap attributes carry that type of instruction?
Sure, role or remaps could convey processing information. But it would be a massive kludge.
Suppose an author has a two paras of prereq information marked with the prereq role and then decides to split the first para into two. The writer, expecting the the split to work like every other para, simply presses return where the para should split. Now we end up with:
<para role="taskprereq"></para> <para></para> <para role="taskprereq"></para>
That would add tons of headaches into the processing stream.
Also, how would we make sure that the role="taskprereq" is only used in tasks? How can we make sure that the prereqs are only before a procedure and not after?
Role attributes in this context are completely antithetical to structured content.
I guess I am concerned about processing expectations. I want a task to be visually distinct, which is easy when it is a block element. Does a sect2 equivalent task look like a sect3 equivalent task, or do the headings take on the appearance of the equivalent of a section at the same level in the hierarchy? If so, haven't I lost the visual cue that this is a task.
Does it matter?
In our environment, a task title looks just like section title, except that we generate a glyph (a triangle -- ▾). So, if a task occurs in a sect1, then it's formatted as a sect2 would be. If a task occurs in sect2, it would be formatted as a sect3.
But if you wanted a task to format differently, couldn't you do that regardless of where it appears in the hierarchy? That's a processing expectation that I think should be left to the implementors.
Steven Cogorno Sun Microsystems






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