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Jan HerrmannMay 30, 2011 7:38 am 
Erik RissanenMay 30, 2011 8:13 am 
Erik RissanenMay 30, 2011 8:16 am 
Bill ParducciMay 30, 2011 8:45 am 
Erik RissanenMay 30, 2011 9:35 am 
Jan HerrmannMay 30, 2011 12:18 pm 
Erik RissanenMay 31, 2011 5:24 am 
Subject:Re: [xacml] three questions: string-not-equal & valid FulfillOn attributevalues & placement of variableDefintions
From:Erik Rissanen (er@axiomatics.com)
Date:May 30, 2011 8:16:30 am
List:org.oasis-open.lists.xacml

Hi Jan,

One more thing. By not allowing variable definitions in a policy set, we avoid the issue of visible duplicate definitions. I would guess that was the main reason. But I was not involved back then, so I don't know for sure.

Best regards, Erik

Hi Jan,

See inline.

On 2011-05-30 16:38, Jan Herrmann wrote:

Hi all,

three little questions:

1. Would it not be useful to allow a sting-not-equal Match-function?

Yes, it would since it's not possible to use a "not" function in a target. However, my opinion is that the fault is not that there is no string-not-equal function, but the problem is that one cannot use a condition in a policy or policy set. There are lots of cases where one has to use weird constructs to work around that, and your case is just one such example.

2. Is there a reason why one can not define an ObligationExpression with a FulfillOn="Indeterminate" value?

Maybe someone from the XACML 1.0 era here could respond better, but it seems a bit weird to put enforcement actions in an error, meaning that we don't even know whether a policy applied or not. I don't have done a formal analysis of a the matter though.

3. Why do VariableDefinitions have to be bound to a <Policy> element and not to e.g. the root <PolicySet> element?

Again, others would know better, but I guess this was simply a design choice. I guess since conditions can appear only in rules, the need for variable definitions was most urgent in a Policy. Of course, now AttributeAssignmentExpression changes that.

Best Regards Jan

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