atom feed41 messages in at.iem.pd-devRe: [PD-dev] pddp style guide
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Subject:Re: [PD-dev] pddp style guide
From:Hans-Christoph Steiner (ha@eds.org)
Date:May 4, 2005 4:33:03 pm
List:at.iem.pd-dev

On May 4, 2005, at 7:08 AM, Anton Woldhek wrote:

sure, they are great resource, mostly for learning about Max peculiarities, but with nice introductory parts, esp. in msp tuts.

However, there are musicians, new to technology, which are lost if left on their own with Max tutorials, and there are advance hackers, which find them naive and bad style.

Ok, so lets drop the port idea then. So what can we offer newbies that find the currenct documentation too difficult (millers book)? Is a text that deals with pd pecularities necessary. What level of dsp knowledge should it assume?

Id like to be able to make a stronger case for pd vs. max at school: besides the pro's that are allready there, platforms, licence, freedom etc etc. (I don't have to preach to the choir im assuming). I still like the idea of a 'mikrokosmos for pd'. Anybody else too?

Yes, mikrokosmos for Pd is a great example (I assume you are talking about Bela Bartok's Mikrokosmos, which he wrote for his kids to learn piano). I started some sketches along those lines that I call "play now". The idea was a set of patches with most of the guts hidden with a clear, straightforward interface. The total newbie could then open the first patch and basically instantly start controlling the sound in real time. As they learned more, they could open the [pd guts] to see what's going on inside.

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