Well, maybe it's time to make some decisions and start to spin the wheels?

I's quite obvious that annotations are out for next release until they are a docbook/phpDoc style. Personally I do not understand the concept fully, but my vote will definetly go to the docbook/phpdoc variant. Adding a whole new syntax is just crazy. PHP is a scripting language, not the Java/C# and alike, it should stay simple. Period. I hope KISS still is a PHP principle?

Sometimes i'm sorry I don't like to do C - it just scared me away in college. Because people here sometimes just do strange things witch tend me to beleve that they do not know the PHP - they know C and try to add things they know from other languages so they don't have to learn the PHP way of doing things. Till the typehint threads and annotation threads i liked the core developer responces and the way php has been heading. Can we keep that and stop discussing things that are 100% alien to php like strict type hinting? in php? are you insane? same with annotations. wana do them? do them simple. docbook/phpdoc annotations allready exist - work out a standart and implement - clean, simple, fast and all ready exists within community. It's a no brainer.

Same with features that have been worked on and forgotten. Revisit, finish and people will like it - there are thing people ask and thouse aren't annotations right now. Community wants typehints and a bunch of stuff from that RFC page.

I hope a spark of reason and sanity will ignight and the procces will start in a few days, or PHP will be seriously screwed in a few years and i will have to make python my primary web development language and i don't wana do that.

Arvids.