atom feed73 messages in org.apache.tomcat.usersRE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat
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Subject:RE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat
From:neal (neal@yahoo.com)
Date:Jan 8, 2003 6:28:25 pm
List:org.apache.tomcat.users

Hmm. But the fact still remains that Tomcat Standalone will not be a commercially viable http server on its own if it can't display a welcome page without redirecting to the page. Dispite all of Tomcat's other abilities, not having this ability is like shooting the standalone notion in the foot. Because of the search engine spidering implications of starting off with a 302 redirect, a Tomcat-standalone-hosted website will likley never place well in most major search engines. So aside from theory ... this is not a good "feature", certainly not a viable one. :(

-----Original Message----- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:crai@apache.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 6:07 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat

On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Turner, John wrote:

Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 20:33:50 -0500 From: "Turner, John" <JTur@AAS.com> Reply-To: Tomcat Users List <tomc@jakarta.apache.org> To: 'Tomcat Users List' <tomc@jakarta.apache.org> Subject: RE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat

No problem, glad to help. Remember, Tomcat is not a HTTP server. It supports HTTP as a matter of convenience. You can run Tomcat all day long without a HTTP or HTTPS connector, and as far as I know, there is nothing in the spec that says Tomcat has to meet certain requirements for HTTP or HTTPS. CoyoteConnector is HTTP/1.1 compliant, but again, that's more for convenience and compatibility than a design requirement.

Auoting from Servlet Specification, Version 2.3, Section 1.2:

All servlet containers must support HTTP as a protocol for requests and responses, but additional request/response based protocols (such as HTTPS (HTTP over SSL) may be supported. The minimum required version of the HTTP specification that a container must implement is HTTP/1.0. It is strongly suggested that containers implement the HTTP/1.1 specification as well.

So, a servlet container (which is either Tomcat standalone or Tomcat+Apache) *must* support HTTP.

I'm sure the folks on tomcat-dev could shed some more light on it.

Of course, this statement does nothing to resolve the issue of what the right welcome file behavior is -- the HTTP spec is silent about that :-).

John

Craig