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Subject:Re: [Bf-committers] "Security" gets in the way
From:Benjamin Tolputt (btol@internode.on.net)
Date:Apr 29, 2010 5:03:52 pm
List:org.blender.bf-committers

Michael Fox wrote:

Ok it seems we are getting nowhere fast on this, so to address the original issue, have it off by default as that is what seems to be causing the most troubles, yet keep it there for those who need it (ie paranoid IT people :) ),

To be honest, I think the reason it is not getting anywhere is two-fold. Firstly, the "default off" /solution/ that is proposed is *not* a solution. It's like making entering a password optional. Unless it is by default *on*, the people most vulnerable to an attack are going to be those that don't turn it on.

as in a studio you will mainly be using internal scripts for like rigs and such not much from the external world

OK, and when rigs do come in from the outside world, like in the recent Durian townsfolk sprint, we *know* that those most experienced in Blender will check them for malicious scripts and/or only open them on machines locked out of the network, right? We still haven't got an answer on that. I think that is pretty telling.

also to show the danger to new users put a warning on the download page in nice red letters at the top

all of this is done until a suitable option is available, and dropping python all together is certainly not a viable alternative

Warning, I am happy to have. Without cooperation from the Python development team though, keeping Python is not a viable alternative either. Something might come out of PyPy (currently they still have "all or nothing" security, not context-by-context restriction) which will make this all moot.

now can this argument please end?

I'm simply replying to emails on the subject. It's not like this has been going for a week and debate on controversial subjects like this are not going to be solved by asking people to "just agree". Should one of the core devs ask me to stop mailing on the subject, I will of course do so - it is, after all, their opinion on the matter I am trying to ascertain!