atom feed30 messages in org.apache.lucene.java-devRe: Whither Query Norm?
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Grant IngersollNov 20, 2009 7:55 am 
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Grant IngersollNov 20, 2009 10:08 am 
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Mark MillerNov 20, 2009 2:24 pm 
Jake MannixNov 20, 2009 2:31 pm 
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Subject:Re: Whither Query Norm?
From:Mark Miller (mark@gmail.com)
Date:Nov 20, 2009 5:02:09 pm
List:org.apache.lucene.java-dev

Go back and put it in after you have all the documents for that commit point. Or on reader load, calculate it.

- Mark

http://www.lucidimagination.com (mobile)

On Nov 20, 2009, at 7:56 PM, Jake Mannix <jake@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Mark Miller <mark@gmail.com> wrote: Okay - my fault - I'm not really talking in terms of Lucene. Though even there I consider it possible. You'd just have to like, rewrite it :) And it would likely be pretty slow.

Rewrite it how? When you index the very first document, the docFreq of all terms is 1, out of numDocs = 1 docs in the corpus. Everybody's idf is the same. No matter how you normalize this, it'll be wrong, once you've indexed a million documents. This isn't a matter of Lucene architecture, it's a matter of idf being a query-time exactly available value (you can approximate it partway through indexing, but you don't know it at all when you start).

-jake