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Derek HolzerMay 6, 2008 12:54 pm 
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IOhannes m zmoelnigMay 7, 2008 12:53 am 
Hans-Christoph SteinerMay 8, 2008 6:22 am 
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IOhannes m zmölnigMay 8, 2008 11:55 pm 
Roman HaefeliMay 9, 2008 2:27 am 
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marius schebellaMay 9, 2008 7:14 am 
Frank BarknechtMay 9, 2008 7:39 am 
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Steffen JuulMay 12, 2008 11:44 pm 
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Derek HolzerJun 23, 2008 11:19 am 
IOhannes m zmoelnigJun 24, 2008 2:49 am 
Derek HolzerJun 24, 2008 3:08 am 
Subject:Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Proof Me! PD FLOSS Manual
From:IOhannes m zmoelnig (zmoe@iem.at)
Date:May 7, 2008 12:53:47 am
List:at.iem.pd-list

Derek Holzer wrote:

Dear Pure Dataheads,

following the PD FLOSS Booksprint in Croatia last month, the 0.1 version of the Pure Data FLOSS Manual is now online!

http://flossmanuals.net/puredata

Adam Hyde, Luka Prinčič and myself busted some serious ass to get this up, and now we're ready to take on our toughest customers: YOU.

great that it is here now.

We'd really appreciate it if members of this list could read through the chapters, keeping the following points in mind:

1) Is the text clear and consistent?

Installing:

i find it highly confusing that the "Installing Pure Data on Debian" (and ubuntu) does not mention in a single word that you could just run "aptitude install puredata"

also, the InstallingOSX is probably not completed yet, as this is the only installer-page that has no beautiful imagery (but then it mentions 'canonical' Pd)

and very minor: please rename "Windows" to "InstallingWindows"

StartingPD: i think "starting Pd from shell on w32" should use C:\Program Files\pd\bin\pd.com instead of C:\Program Files\pd\bin\pd.exe in order to have any benefit of using the cli. also it would probably be better to use %ProgramFiles%\pd\bin\ to make it work on any installation (but then again, i guess this is probably too complicated)

Troubleshooting in the "sack-overflow" faq, i find the the mentioning of "Dataflow Objects" rather confusing, as in the rest of the text, these are just "objects". are "DataFlow Objects" a different kind of objects? (digging deeper into the tutorial i notice that you seem to refer to message-objects as "Dataflow Objects", so it makes a bit more sense; however, for me, this terminology is new; i therefore wonder why you introduced it)

PureGlossary: VectorBasedGraphics are graphics "where every element on the screen is defined by a set of numbers describing their appearance". now i wonder what's the difference to an "image", where every element on the screen (pixel) is defined by a set of numbers (R, G, B) describing their appearance.

ListOfObjects: MarkEx is no longer part of Gem

PureLinks: - in the Installing section you seem to refer to puredata.info, which is not at all found on the PureLinks page (well it is, in the mailinglist section); i would suggest to either use puredata.org _or_ puredata.info (and would favour the latter :-)) - "Linux Distributions with Pd": both Debian and ubuntu (regular) are simply missing; ubuntu studio has a " " leftover

4) Grammar/spelling, of course

Miller refers to "Pd" rather than "PD", shouldn't this canonical form be used? (which reminds me, that even the header of this list says [PD] :-|)

Thanks and best wishes!

_very nice_

can i just incorporate some of the info into the puredata FAQ?

mfga.sdr IOhannes