atom feed107 messages in org.apache.communityRe: Rules for Revolutionaries
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Subject:Re: Rules for Revolutionaries
From:Costin Manolache (cman@yahoo.com)
Date:Nov 7, 2002 12:39:33 pm
List:org.apache.community

On Thu, 2002-11-07 at 08:01, Sam Ruby wrote:

I differ with that rendition, and believe that it is harmful to the community for it to be propogated.

I also differ with the rendition ( almost all of it ), and need to point that every tomcat release so far ( except the very first one - Sam may remember that ) was based on a majority vote on tomcat-dev. That includes tomcat4.0, 3.3, 4.1.

The main problem that the 'revolution' rule solves ( IMO ) is that it prevents a small group ( or one person ) to control a codebase and a project by using the veto. It's quite easy to find technical reasons with anything, and very hard to define what's 'valid'.

If a majority of committers wants to go in one direction with the architecture or some features - and few people are against, then the revolution is the only way to do that ( AFAIK ).

I'm very happy with how things work in tomcat ( 5.0 and all the other nice things ).

Costin