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20 messages in org.xml.lists.xml-devRe: [xml-dev] MarkMail: now archiving...| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Jason Hunter | Nov 26, 2007 11:55 am | |
| Costello, Roger L. | Nov 26, 2007 1:32 pm | |
| Len Bullard | Nov 26, 2007 5:07 pm | |
| bryan rasmussen | Nov 27, 2007 12:59 am | |
| Elliotte Harold | Nov 27, 2007 4:51 am | |
| Elliotte Rusty Harold | Nov 27, 2007 5:00 am | |
| Len Bullard | Nov 27, 2007 5:56 am | |
| Jason Hunter | Nov 27, 2007 11:05 am | |
| Jason Hunter | Nov 27, 2007 12:46 pm | |
| Elliotte Rusty Harold | Nov 27, 2007 6:52 pm | |
| Edward C. Zimmermann | Nov 27, 2007 11:41 pm | |
| Jason Hunter | Nov 28, 2007 12:48 am | |
| Andrew Welch | Nov 28, 2007 2:21 am | |
| Edward C. Zimmermann | Nov 28, 2007 3:45 am | |
| John Snelson | Nov 28, 2007 4:51 am | |
| Jason Hunter | Nov 28, 2007 11:34 am | |
| Edward C. Zimmermann | Nov 28, 2007 1:12 pm | |
| Jason Hunter | Nov 28, 2007 3:09 pm | |
| Elliotte Rusty Harold | Dec 7, 2007 4:39 am | |
| Jason Hunter | Dec 7, 2007 9:38 am |
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| From: | Elliotte Harold (elh...@metalab.unc.edu) | |
| Date: | Nov 27, 2007 4:51:50 am | |
| List: | org.xml.lists.xml-dev | |
Jason Hunter wrote:
As you'll see with the chart on the home page, one of our goals with the site has been to focus heavily on analytics. We have lots of graphs and counts. Every query you write gets its own histogram chart.
Yes, but it seems to be only the queries you've planned for. What I find lacking in this sort of approach is two-fold:
1. The URLs aren't exposed so you can't easily mash things up. It has the classic problem of framed pages, only more so because it's all done with AJAX.
2. The database is not exposed to real XQuery. You can get a lot more out of that database from behind the firewall than we can from in front of it.
What's presented is a mildly interesting way to ego-surf and kill time, and perhaps marginally better than doing full text search with Google, but it doesn't really change the game. There may be a lot of power in storing mailing list archives in a native XML database, but that's lost when the database is locked behind a limited, non-XQuery web interface.
Now if one were to define a way to embed arbitrary XQuery expressions inside a URL and serve those results, then that would be interesting.
-- Elliotte Rusty Harold elh...@metalab.unc.edu Java I/O 2nd Edition Just Published! http://www.cafeaulait.org/books/javaio2/ http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0596527500/ref=nosim/cafeaulaitA/
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