88 messages in net.php.lists.internalsRe: [PHP-DEV] Proposal: Array syntax| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Christian Schneider | Nov 4, 2003 3:32 pm |  .patch |
| Rasmus Lerdorf | Nov 4, 2003 5:06 pm | |
| Ken Tossell | Nov 4, 2003 5:09 pm | |
| Andi Gutmans | Nov 5, 2003 12:49 am | |
| Michael Walter | Nov 5, 2003 12:59 am | |
| Michael Walter | Nov 5, 2003 1:03 am | |
| Kouber Saparev | Nov 5, 2003 1:47 am | |
| Christian Schneider | Nov 5, 2003 2:06 am | |
| s0niX | Nov 5, 2003 2:43 am | |
| Ford, Mike [LSS] | Nov 5, 2003 3:20 am | |
| Mike Robinson | Nov 5, 2003 3:26 am | |
| Dirkjan Ochtman | Nov 5, 2003 3:45 am | |
| Cesare D'Amico | Nov 5, 2003 4:02 am | |
| Alexey Trunyov | Nov 5, 2003 4:34 am | |
| Antony Dovgal | Nov 5, 2003 4:59 am | |
| Marco Tabini | Nov 5, 2003 5:04 am | |
| Ilia Alshanetsky | Nov 5, 2003 5:06 am | |
| Magnus Määttä | Nov 5, 2003 5:07 am | |
| Derick Rethans | Nov 5, 2003 5:18 am | |
| Christian Schneider | Nov 5, 2003 7:34 am | |
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| Antony Dovgal | Nov 5, 2003 8:03 am | |
| Rasmus Lerdorf | Nov 5, 2003 8:21 am | |
| Christian Schneider | Nov 5, 2003 8:30 am | |
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| Ilia Alshanetsky | Nov 5, 2003 8:47 am | |
| Andi Gutmans | Nov 5, 2003 8:47 am | |
| Jani Taskinen | Nov 5, 2003 8:49 am | |
| Ford, Mike [LSS] | Nov 5, 2003 8:50 am | |
| Marco Tabini | Nov 5, 2003 8:52 am | |
| Christian Schneider | Nov 5, 2003 8:54 am | |
| George Schlossnagle | Nov 5, 2003 8:58 am | |
| Jani Taskinen | Nov 5, 2003 8:59 am | |
| Christian Schneider | Nov 5, 2003 9:00 am | |
| Ford, Mike [LSS] | Nov 5, 2003 9:00 am | |
| Marco Tabini | Nov 5, 2003 9:01 am | |
| Marco Tabini | Nov 5, 2003 9:05 am | |
| Ford, Mike [LSS] | Nov 5, 2003 9:07 am | |
| Ford, Mike [LSS] | Nov 5, 2003 9:09 am | |
| Marco Tabini | Nov 5, 2003 9:18 am | |
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| Ilia Alshanetsky | Nov 5, 2003 9:25 am | |
| Marco Tabini | Nov 5, 2003 9:30 am | |
| Derick Rethans | Nov 5, 2003 9:33 am | |
| George Schlossnagle | Nov 5, 2003 9:36 am | |
| Rasmus Lerdorf | Nov 5, 2003 9:45 am | |
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| Romans Malinovskis | Nov 5, 2003 9:48 am | |
| Moriyoshi Koizumi | Nov 5, 2003 9:50 am | |
| Jani Taskinen | Nov 5, 2003 9:54 am | |
| Jaap van Ganswijk | Nov 5, 2003 10:06 am | |
| Michael Walter | Nov 5, 2003 10:12 am | |
| Cesare D'Amico | Nov 5, 2003 10:22 am | |
| Marco Tabini | Nov 5, 2003 10:28 am | |
| Michael Walter | Nov 5, 2003 10:30 am | |
| Michael Walter | Nov 5, 2003 10:35 am | |
| George Schlossnagle | Nov 5, 2003 10:36 am | |
| Andrei Zmievski | Nov 5, 2003 10:39 am | |
| George Schlossnagle | Nov 5, 2003 10:56 am | |
| David Enderson | Nov 5, 2003 11:02 am | |
| Marco Tabini | Nov 5, 2003 11:10 am | |
| Shane Caraveo | Nov 5, 2003 11:12 am | |
| Michael Walter | Nov 5, 2003 12:26 pm | |
| Greg MacLellan | Nov 5, 2003 12:40 pm | |
| Robert Cummings | Nov 5, 2003 1:08 pm | |
| David Enderson | Nov 5, 2003 1:19 pm | |
| Sara Golemon | Nov 5, 2003 2:40 pm | |
| George Schlossnagle | Nov 5, 2003 3:00 pm | |
| Wez Furlong | Nov 5, 2003 4:06 pm | |
| Christian Schneider | Nov 5, 2003 5:07 pm | |
| Ard Biesheuvel | Nov 5, 2003 5:27 pm | |
| Christian Schneider | Nov 5, 2003 5:50 pm | |
| Andi Gutmans | Nov 6, 2003 12:03 am | |
| Stig S. Bakken | Nov 6, 2003 12:58 am | |
| Kouber Saparev | Nov 6, 2003 1:24 am | |
| Mike Robinson | Nov 6, 2003 3:31 am | |
| Andi Gutmans | Nov 6, 2003 4:04 am | |
| Ford, Mike [LSS] | Nov 6, 2003 4:09 am | |
| Alexey Trunyov | Nov 6, 2003 4:15 am | |
| Ford, Mike [LSS] | Nov 6, 2003 4:27 am | |
| Sascha Schumann | Nov 6, 2003 4:30 am | |
| Andi Gutmans | Nov 6, 2003 5:28 am | |
| Sascha Schumann | Nov 6, 2003 5:46 am | |
| Stig S. Bakken | Nov 6, 2003 6:32 am |
| Subject: | Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal: Array syntax | |
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| From: | Michael Walter (cm...@leetspeak.org) | |
| Date: | Nov 5, 2003 12:26:14 pm | |
| List: | net.php.lists.internals | |
Marco Tabini wrote:
George Schlossnagle wrote:
On Nov 5, 2003, at 1:29 PM, Marco Tabini wrote:
$a = [1,2,$b[11]] is semantically inconsistent.
How so? Is
I think I've already explained why.
Not really understandable, though.
foo(array(1,2));
semantically inconsistent? On one hand () is used with a language construct (array()), whereas in the other context it indicates arguments to a function. I think that is what he meant by 'grouping' and 'application'.
Actually, I think it meant something else. In any case, semantically you can still think of array() as a function (until you throw in key declarations, of course ;) )
Yup, I told you I meant something different (although on the same line of reasoning). I think you misunderstand "semantics", anyway. You should not think of array() as a function, as basically everything else except to the syntax is different to "real" functions, consider call_user_func('array', 1, 2, 3) or array_map('array', array(1, 2, 3), array("Foo", "Bar", "Baz"));
How much better would look map('array', [1..3], ["Foo", "Bar", "Baz"]); anyway.. (although we really should not argue about that, as it's simply taste).
Similar tokens have different syntactical meaning all over the language. Compare '<<' and '<<<'. To me that is no diffent that <variable>[] and [].
Again, that's not a good reason to introduce more.
That is a statement backed up by good argumentation. :)