46 messages in org.apache.cocoon.devRe: Renaming Corona to Cocoon 3.0 and...| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Reinhard Pötz | Aug 6, 2008 4:19 am | |
| Felix Knecht | Aug 6, 2008 4:28 am | |
| Andrew Savory | Aug 6, 2008 4:30 am | |
| Daniel Fagerstrom | Aug 6, 2008 4:39 am | |
| Thorsten Scherler | Aug 6, 2008 4:54 am | |
| Carsten Ziegeler | Aug 6, 2008 4:56 am | |
| Jasha Joachimsthal | Aug 6, 2008 6:15 am | |
| Peter Hunsberger | Aug 6, 2008 7:30 am | |
| Ralph Goers | Aug 6, 2008 7:43 am | |
| Joerg Heinicke | Aug 6, 2008 8:09 am | |
| Vadim Gritsenko | Aug 7, 2008 5:23 am | |
| Bertrand Delacretaz | Aug 8, 2008 7:06 am | |
| Alfred Nathaniel | Aug 8, 2008 4:23 pm | |
| Reinhard Pötz | Aug 10, 2008 1:15 am | |
| Reinhard Pötz | Aug 10, 2008 1:19 am | |
| Vadim Gritsenko | Aug 10, 2008 12:08 pm | |
| Reinhard Pötz | Aug 10, 2008 1:18 pm | |
| Vadim Gritsenko | Aug 10, 2008 3:46 pm | |
| Reinhard Pötz | Aug 16, 2008 7:19 am | |
| Ralph Goers | Aug 16, 2008 7:32 am | |
| Grzegorz Kossakowski | Aug 17, 2008 7:44 am | |
| Reinhard Pötz | Aug 17, 2008 8:14 am | |
| Sylvain Wallez | Aug 17, 2008 10:41 am | |
| Grzegorz Kossakowski | Aug 18, 2008 2:23 am | |
| Rainer Pruy | Aug 18, 2008 2:43 am | |
| Grzegorz Kossakowski | Aug 18, 2008 3:04 am | |
| Jeremy Quinn | Aug 18, 2008 3:42 am | |
| Jeremy Quinn | Aug 18, 2008 4:07 am | |
| Reinhard Pötz | Aug 18, 2008 4:21 am | |
| Sylvain Wallez | Aug 18, 2008 5:12 am | |
| Sylvain Wallez | Aug 18, 2008 5:13 am | |
| Sylvain Wallez | Aug 18, 2008 5:47 am | |
| Grzegorz Kossakowski | Aug 18, 2008 6:22 am | |
| Reinhard Pötz | Aug 18, 2008 6:23 am | |
| Grzegorz Kossakowski | Aug 18, 2008 6:28 am | |
| Reinhard Pötz | Aug 18, 2008 6:29 am | |
| Sylvain Wallez | Aug 18, 2008 8:04 am | |
| Ralph Goers | Aug 18, 2008 8:21 am | |
| Carsten Ziegeler | Aug 18, 2008 8:41 am | |
| Jeremy Quinn | Aug 18, 2008 8:56 am | |
| Sylvain Wallez | Aug 18, 2008 8:57 am | |
| Grzegorz Kossakowski | Aug 19, 2008 4:53 am | |
| Jeremy Quinn | Aug 19, 2008 8:03 am | |
| Jeremy Quinn | Aug 19, 2008 8:10 am | |
| Reinhard Pötz | Aug 20, 2008 5:44 am | |
| Peter Hunsberger | Aug 20, 2008 7:32 am |
| Subject: | Re: Renaming Corona to Cocoon 3.0 and infrastructure | |
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| From: | Rainer Pruy (Rain...@Acrys.COM) | |
| Date: | Aug 18, 2008 2:43:06 am | |
| List: | org.apache.cocoon.dev | |
Just another 0.01€ in the same direction:
most "developing" users (esp. the ones developing cocoon itself) would qualify
as hackers.
Those are used to associate special meanings with groups of version numbers
as a number of other projects follow similar rules (e.g. Linux for long used
that even/odd numbering scheme).
However, as Cocoon will (and should) attract non hacker users,
on a first view, what will indicate to them, that version 3.1.2 is not
"superior" to 3.0.9?
(superior aka later or more mature)
While I personally am quite fine with any versioning scheme,
I do think, it is absolutely necessary to have a policy document explaining it
to accidental users. And this nearly at the same time they will detect something
like cocoon does exist at all.
Rainer
Sylvain Wallez schrieb:
Reinhard Pötz wrote:
Versioning
------------------------------- For Cocoon 2 there have been proposals that all odd versions are development/alpha versions and all even versions are stable releases.
I like this idea and propose that we follow this versioning schema in Cocoon 3: All 3.0.x releases are marked as development versions and we clearly explain this on the website and the READMEs of all artifacts.
When we believe that the community and the technology are stable, we do a 3.1.0 release.
I think this is less confusing than appending alpha, beta or milestone postfixes.
I would say the contrary. Let's not forget that most of our users aren't hard-core developers (they love Cocoon because they can do complex stuff without programming) and they aren't used to this odd/even versioning scheme that comes from the Linux kernel.
Rather than that, it seems to me that most of the "normal" (i.e. non hard-core hacker) people consider a version without any "beta", "milestone" or other suffix as an official stable release. A well-known example is Firefox that goes through a series of milestones, beta and RC version before releasing a stable version with the same number. Eclipse does the same.
Also, I haven't voted for the renaming Corona to Cocoon 3.0 as I was on vacation, but I really think this is too early. Cocoon 2.2 is just out and we announce a 3.0. This will most probably lead people to consider 2.2 as a transition to 3.0 and just not use it, and thus just look elsewhere. Stated clearly, I have fears that just as Maven almost killed the developer community for 2.2, announcing a 3.0 now will kill the user community.
My 0.02 euros.
Sylvain