svilen wrote:

I have a strong urge to say "me too", but I'm not going to do it. :-)

The "Integrating the ORM with Trellis" thread showed up a day before I was going to compose an e-mail entitled "Integrating the ORM with Traits." Many of Phillip's concerns with getting Trellis working with SQLAlchemy also directly applies to what I'm trying to do with Traits and it's own event-driven programming environment.

Over the last month I have used SQLAlchemy 0.4.1 to create a generic Traits class that would automatically persist defined Traits (special class attributes that support events and callbacks) into dynamically generated mapped tables. I just upgraded from 0.4.1 to 0.4.3 and am frustrated to find that the newest version of SA no longer detects changes to my objects when I do a commit.

Since this whole area of code appears to still be in flux I was going to stop development on my package until an API was provided, or the consensus is that the interfaces are stable. So I am very interested in seeing a public interface that I can work with. I understand that it's not clear what is needed, but I too will be willing to help where I can.