Hi, I think there are several groups of Java users out there. For some of them silent updates are the right thing for others those updates might cause a lot of headaches.

I would like to propose to let the user decide which strategy is the right one for him. For most "consumers" a silent update is probably the right choice. If so why not enable it with one of the next updates automatically (by default)?

For managed environments it should be possible to disable the silent updates through a switch in the unattended install. Changes need to be tested here.

And then the power users, some of them might be dependent on a specific version of the JRE/JDK and only want to update when they can tolerate the additional time needed to test if anything impotant broke (Juniper VPN anyone?). For these users there should be a dialog at the end of the update which enables silent updates that lets them turn silent updates off again. The important thing here is that if the user does nothing the default (silent updates enabled) should apply.

Now, I don't know how "silent" a JDK update on Windows can be performed nowadays. I guess you need admin rights to perform it. On Linux the "consumer" user will have their JDK managed through the distribution. The "roots" will be able to manage the updates themself.

Cheers, Tobias

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----- Reply message ----- Von: "John Yeary" <john...@gmail.com> An: <jug-...@jugs.java.net> Betreff: [jug-leaders] Re: That&apos;s bad for JavaFx Datum: Fr., Aug. 17, 2012 16:30

Agreed. Manfred has put it quite nicely.

Hildeberto I think it is a good thing that you brought it up so that the folks at Oracle get some feedback. Remaining positive makes it possible to be productive in making changes.

I have not seen those messages before, but I run the latest JDK at all times. I can see where an untrained user may say "I don't want to get hacked" and disable it. A process which would be bad for all of us.

John

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On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 3:15 AM, Hildeberto Mendonça <me...@hildeberto.com>wrote: