|Tim Ellison||Oct 29, 2011 2:03 am|
|liou||Oct 29, 2011 2:24 am|
|Jesse Wilson||Oct 29, 2011 6:35 am|
|enh||Oct 29, 2011 8:37 am|
|Christian Grobmeier||Oct 29, 2011 8:52 am|
|Karl Wettin||Oct 29, 2011 9:00 am|
|Danese Cooper||Oct 29, 2011 11:33 am|
|Niclas Hedhman||Oct 29, 2011 7:48 pm|
|sebb||Oct 30, 2011 4:21 am|
|Niclas Hedhman||Oct 30, 2011 9:20 am|
|sebb||Oct 30, 2011 4:44 pm|
|Nathan Beyer||Oct 30, 2011 7:19 pm|
|Ilya Berezhnyuk||Oct 31, 2011 3:58 am|
|Oliver Deakin||Oct 31, 2011 6:43 am|
|Ray Chen||Oct 31, 2011 6:52 am|
|Regis Xu||Oct 31, 2011 7:27 am|
|Catherine Hope||Oct 31, 2011 8:17 am|
|Charles Lee||Oct 31, 2011 6:52 pm|
|Jimmy,Jing Lv||Nov 1, 2011 8:17 am|
|Mark Hindess||Nov 1, 2011 12:47 pm|
|Prashanth K S||Nov 2, 2011 5:10 am|
|Alex Blewitt||Nov 2, 2011 5:36 am|
|Mikhail Markov||Nov 2, 2011 6:54 am|
|johann Sorel||Nov 2, 2011 8:01 am|
|Niclas Hedhman||Nov 2, 2011 8:35 am|
|johann Sorel||Nov 2, 2011 9:43 am|
|Xiao-Feng Li||Nov 2, 2011 7:56 pm|
|Melan Nimesh||Nov 2, 2011 10:31 pm|
|Ray Chen||Nov 2, 2011 11:47 pm|
|johann Sorel||Nov 3, 2011 1:48 am|
|Niclas Hedhman||Nov 3, 2011 3:02 am|
|Alex Blewitt||Nov 3, 2011 3:08 am|
|Tim Ellison||Nov 3, 2011 3:30 am|
|Tim Ellison||Nov 3, 2011 4:36 am|
|Tim Ellison||Nov 3, 2011 4:39 am|
|johann Sorel||Nov 3, 2011 4:41 am|
|Tim Ellison||Nov 3, 2011 5:02 am|
|Niclas Hedhman||Nov 3, 2011 5:37 pm|
|Subject:||Re: [Vote] Move Apache Harmony to the Attic|
|From:||Niclas Hedhman (nic...@hedhman.org)|
|Date:||Nov 3, 2011 5:37:48 pm|
Well, true that your contribution can not be released into the PD without your permission, however someone (incl ASF) can release it under another license, a.k.a sublicense. ALv2 allows this (paragraph 2).
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Alex Blewitt <alex...@gmail.com> wrote:
The PMC do not have the authority to release it as public domain as they do not
own the code. It was donated by individuals (such as myself) under the Apache
To get it released under a different license you would have to personally
contact every contributor and ask them for permission individually. It is not up
to the PMC.
To save you time in wasting hours tracking down every contributor I hereby do
not agree to release my contributions under anything but the Apache License that
it is under currently. Therefore it is impossible for Apache Harmony in its
entirety under public domain without removal of my contributions.
Please take time to understand how copyright and licensing interact and stop
making requests which are impossible for the PMC to grant, whether the project
is active or archived.
Sent from my iPhone 4S
On 3 Nov 2011, at 08:49, johann Sorel <sore...@inbox.com> wrote:
You are right, if they want they can use it with this license but still it's a
source of problems. we have plenty of different licenses out there, MIT, BSD,
GPL ... and some more license we surely be created in the futur, mixing them is
not always fun. All of them are not fully compatible. Legal problems are
something really dirty when you encounter them, noone working on open-source
projects want to have such problems.
The apache license is ~more or less~ fine today (everyone has it's own
preference), but might become a problem later. To avoid those problems the
change can only be done now while the PMC is still here.
Setting it in public domain can also make it revive, forks can start much more
easely from it. Several JVM have ~dyed~ (or are in lawsuit like google dalvik,
android) in the last year. Having a few more vm out there would be for the best,
specialy if they are already reliable alternatives like harmony.
Hi, As my understanding, if anyone (inlcuding students) want to use Harmony or contribute to Harmony. There is no limitation with the Apache license.
Correct me, if I am wrong.
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Melan Nimesh <mela...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 8:31 PM, johann Sorel <sore...@inbox.com> wrote:
I'm intruding again, before moving it to the attic and while the PMC is still alive. maybe you could consider moving the project under public domain for the benefit of other vm, student and university works ? and android by the way (even if I'm not fan of it).
+1 for moving the project under public domain
Mail from last year : http://harmony.markmail.org/message/bzifm5jshpviyyzz?q=public+domain
This will allow other project with bsd-like, mit, ...etc... licenses to reuse parts of harmony more easely. Don't let all this work go to waste.
See it as a gift to the community :) .
Sadly, but indeed there are no activity in the project for months...
On 11/2/11, Alex Blewitt <alex...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry to see it go but with the history and lack of sponsorship (commercial or otherwise), the project has probably drawn to a close.
On 29 Oct 2011, at 10:03, Tim Ellison wrote:
Please vote on the proposal to move Apache Harmony to the Apache Attic.
[+1] Move Harmony to the Attic [ 0] Don't care [-1] Don't move Harmony to the Attic.
The vote will be open for at least 72 hours.
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