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Subject:Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [patch rfc 1/3] xen arch header rework.
From:Jacob Gorm Hansen (jac@diku.dk)
Date:10/11/2006 06:47:15 AM
List:com.xensource.lists.xen-devel

On Wed, 2006-10-11 at 13:54 +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:

I'm using perl just because perl is _the_ classic language for text processing jobs like that one and I've already hacked up perl scripts before python started to exist ;)

We all have our reasons. I gave up on BASIC a while ago though, and my 68K skill have not been very much in demand either lately.

These days every programming language on earth has bindings for the PCRE library, so switching to something else should be possible without too much trouble. It wouldn't be /me writing that script though.

I don't think adding perl as build dependency is a big problem, almost everyone has it on the machine anyway. Try "rpm -e perl" on any linux distro and watch the error message with the long list of stuff which depends on perl.

Yes it's a terrible world already, lets make things worse. I think for a project like Xen to be successful in the long term, it is necessary to abide to a set of rules or a 'taste' of what should and should not be allowed. For a while there was a tendency in Xen to fault in any odd piece of software that some developer had fallen in love with (like Twisted). Most of that stuff is thankfully gone now, because someone (other than the people pushing for the inclusion originally I am sure) went through the hard work of rewriting things. The problem with Perl is that quite often people tend to depend on various modules, and the poor (Perl-hating) user ends up spending hours fetching stuff from CPAN just to make the life of the (Perl-loving and lazy) developer a little bit easier. If you don't want to spend the time necessary to port your scripts to Xen's scripting language of choice, and noone else can be convinced to do it for you, I think your patch should simply be rejected.

Jacob