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168 messages in net.php.lists.internalsRe: [PHP-DEV] RIP PHP 4?| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Tijnema | Jul 6, 2007 5:10 pm | |
| Andi Gutmans | Jul 6, 2007 9:37 pm | |
| Rasmus Lerdorf | Jul 6, 2007 10:25 pm | |
| Andi Gutmans | Jul 6, 2007 10:33 pm | |
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| Vesselin Kenashkov | Jul 7, 2007 6:01 am | |
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| Derick Rethans | Jul 7, 2007 7:26 am | |
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| Andi Gutmans | Jul 10, 2007 9:24 am | |
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| Subject: | Re: [PHP-DEV] RIP PHP 4? | Actions... |
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| From: | Larry Garfield (lar...@garfieldtech.com) | |
| Date: | Jul 8, 2007 5:06:26 pm | |
| List: | net.php.lists.internals | |
I have to agree with Andi. The GoPHP5 effort wanted to have a fairly aggressive timeline because its main target is projects and shared hosts, and if it was too far in the future no one would notice. The involved projects also won't actually have their next feature release until later in the year some time.
The PHP dev team, however, has a different set of targets. It has to include distros and business servers. A longer warning period is sensible.
Which of course means that the sooner an EOL date is announced, the sooner PHP 4 can be retired. :-) Sometime next summer sounds reasonable, and I've no problem whatsoever with kitch dates[1].
On Sunday 08 July 2007, Andi Gutmans wrote:
Because some of us don't believe 6 months is enough time for the broad market to make the move. One year is more suitable. As we already stated the message would already be strong today and people wouldn't wait until the year ends with an end-of-life coming up. Andi
-----Original Message----- From: davi...@gmail.com [mailto:davi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of David Coallier Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 2:21 PM To: Tomas Kuliavas Cc: inte...@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RIP PHP 4?
On 7/8/07, Tomas Kuliavas <tok...@users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
Well, then I guess we have no choice but to declare
official PHP
4 end-of-life to be on 8:08:08 pm too :) Now we only need to choose a suitable timezone :)
Well, for us using the 24 hr clock I'd say 8:08:08 am (ante meridiem) as it otherwise will be 20:08:08 when we speak
and write about this event.
Except no real geek would schedule anything for 8am.
Easy. Schedule it for 8am in China. Do it in Canada, UK or
Israel. :)
What about 8/8/8 8pm in china and 01/01/08 Canada, UK, USA.. that way we can get rid of it quickly and if it's meaningful for chinese people to use the number 8, we can do it on 8/8/8 for them (irony/joke) ? Seriously.. I don't really see the point in keeping it for another year.. imho end of the year is great and more than enough time to upgrade, we've got to cut the cord sometimes.. why not keep it until 9/9/9 since it's 6/6/6 upside down and means the devil.. the end of things.. could also be the end of php4
-- Tomas
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