Costin Manolache wrote:

the tomcat developers are not all that matter, though. users matter (it sounds as though they're mostly happy, though -- of course, according to the reports of tomcat developers <grin/>). and other asf communities matter.

again, that may be the case within the tomcat community. it sounds as though there's some friction at the interface between that community and other parts (and possibly the whole) of the asf community.

all asf projects need to remember that they're part of the asf and share the asf brand, and obviously should not do anything that will damage that brand, and thereby negatively affect the asf and the other communities within it. the shared brand is 'apache', not 'jakarta', not 'soap', not 'httpd', not 'xml'. for instance (and i'm not suggesting this has happened or will happen), no project should do anything that will result in a user saying, 'oh, i tried apache foo and it was so confused and messed up and support was so bad that i'm not the least bit interested in trying apache bar.'

we need to build 'better communities' and 'more tolerance' inter-project as well as intra-project.