17 messages in net.sourceforge.lists.courier-usersRe: [courier-users] Re: couriertls, r...
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Subject:Re: [courier-users] Re: couriertls, rfc1035, and /etc/hostsActions...
From:Troy Benjegerdes (hoz@hozed.org)
Date:Nov 25, 2003 10:09:40 pm
List:net.sourceforge.lists.courier-users

Courier is a mail server targeted at people who send and receive mail, and as such expects them to have some sort of name server. My external IP has a DNS entry so I can actually use my mail server (and my internal hosts have dynamic entries from DHCP), and if you're managing a network large enough to have internal mail servers and still using /etc/hosts, I really pity you.

A nit to pick...

On linux glibc and solaris, you don't use '/etc/hosts', you use whatever libnss_* module /etc/nsswitch tells you to use..

This means you can have a large network of machines which are managed by Ldap or NIS that don't ever hit DNS for local lookups.

Now, I admit smtp servers are 'special', but you *are* breaking several assumptions most people expect by not using the OS provided nss lookups.

And yes, I deal with around 200 odd hosts that still use /etc/hosts lookups.. they are the compute nodes for a couple of 32-64 node clusters. It's not *that* big a deal since the cluster nodes are identical. But I am looking at either libnss_ldap, or running a ldap->bind dns server. The ldap->bind->dns route DOES have several disadvantages, most notably convincing it to update quickly when you make an ldap change.

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-------------------------------------------------------------------------- Troy Benjegerdes 'da hozer' hoz@drgw.net

Somone asked my why I work on this free (http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/) software stuff and not get a real job. Charles Shultz had the best answer:

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