| From | Sent On | Attachments |
|---|---|---|
| Thierry Carrez | Nov 7, 2012 8:40 am | |
| Doug Hellmann | Nov 7, 2012 9:04 am | |
| Russell Bryant | Nov 7, 2012 9:12 am | |
| Doug Hellmann | Nov 7, 2012 10:44 am | |
| Lloyd Dewolf | Nov 7, 2012 11:15 am | |
| John Garbutt | Nov 7, 2012 11:24 am | |
| Gabriel Hurley | Nov 7, 2012 11:47 am | |
| Jay Pipes | Nov 7, 2012 11:58 am | |
| Angus Salkeld | Nov 7, 2012 2:48 pm | |
| John Dickinson | Nov 7, 2012 3:11 pm | |
| Gabriel Hurley | Nov 7, 2012 5:10 pm | |
| John Dickinson | Nov 7, 2012 9:33 pm | |
| John Dickinson | Nov 7, 2012 9:53 pm | |
| Monty Taylor | Nov 8, 2012 12:01 am | |
| Thierry Carrez | Nov 8, 2012 1:42 am | |
| Gabriel Hurley | Nov 8, 2012 2:55 am | |
| Monty Taylor | Nov 8, 2012 3:28 am | |
| Monty Taylor | Nov 8, 2012 3:30 am | |
| Mark McLoughlin | Nov 8, 2012 3:56 am | |
| Mark McLoughlin | Nov 8, 2012 4:06 am | |
| Mark McLoughlin | Nov 8, 2012 4:34 am | |
| Sean Dague | Nov 8, 2012 4:43 am | |
| Thierry Carrez | Nov 8, 2012 4:53 am | |
| Thierry Carrez | Nov 8, 2012 4:56 am | |
| David Kranz | Nov 8, 2012 7:21 am | |
| Russell Bryant | Nov 8, 2012 7:36 am | |
| Anne Gentle | Nov 8, 2012 7:47 am | |
| John Dickinson | Nov 8, 2012 8:20 am | |
| Monty Taylor | Nov 8, 2012 8:55 am | |
| Thierry Carrez | Nov 8, 2012 9:07 am | |
| John Griffith | Nov 8, 2012 9:27 am | |
| Gabriel Hurley | Nov 8, 2012 11:00 am | |
| John Dickinson | Nov 8, 2012 11:06 am | |
| Vishvananda Ishaya | Nov 8, 2012 11:48 am | |
| David Kranz | Nov 8, 2012 12:14 pm | |
| Thierry Carrez | Nov 9, 2012 1:51 am | |
| Zane Bitter | Nov 9, 2012 8:22 am | |
| Jay Pipes | Nov 9, 2012 9:13 am | |
| John Griffith | Nov 9, 2012 9:18 am | |
| Doug Hellmann | Nov 9, 2012 9:35 am | |
| Russell Bryant | Nov 9, 2012 9:49 am | |
| Jay Pipes | Nov 9, 2012 10:57 am | |
| Gabriel Hurley | Nov 9, 2012 11:59 am | |
| Thierry Carrez | Nov 10, 2012 2:26 am | |
| Mark McLoughlin | Nov 14, 2012 3:04 am | |
| Thierry Carrez | Nov 14, 2012 4:19 am | |
| Mark McLoughlin | Nov 14, 2012 6:37 am | |
| Thierry Carrez | Nov 14, 2012 7:16 am | |
| Doug Hellmann | Nov 14, 2012 7:21 am | |
| Gabriel Hurley | Nov 14, 2012 12:12 pm | |
| heckj | Nov 14, 2012 1:28 pm | |
| Jay Pipes | Nov 14, 2012 1:58 pm | |
| Thierry Carrez | Nov 15, 2012 2:19 am | |
| Russell Bryant | Nov 15, 2012 4:32 am | |
| Zane Bitter | Nov 15, 2012 4:43 am | |
| Thierry Carrez | Nov 15, 2012 4:56 am | |
| Zane Bitter | Nov 15, 2012 10:23 am | |
| Anne Gentle | Nov 15, 2012 11:30 am | |
| Thierry Carrez | Nov 16, 2012 1:07 am | |
| Thierry Carrez | Nov 16, 2012 1:56 am | |
| Thierry Carrez | Nov 16, 2012 1:57 am | |
| Anne Gentle | Nov 16, 2012 6:16 am | |
| Mark McLoughlin | Nov 16, 2012 9:56 am | |
| Gabriel Hurley | Nov 16, 2012 10:49 am | |
| John Dickinson | Nov 16, 2012 11:05 am | |
| Anne Gentle | Nov 16, 2012 12:14 pm | |
| Doug Hellmann | Nov 16, 2012 3:36 pm | |
| Doug Hellmann | Nov 16, 2012 3:39 pm | |
| Mark McLoughlin | Nov 17, 2012 8:47 am | |
| Mark McLoughlin | Nov 17, 2012 9:03 am | |
| Anne Gentle | Nov 17, 2012 10:20 pm | |
| Mark McLoughlin | Nov 18, 2012 9:19 am | |
| Thierry Carrez | Nov 19, 2012 1:40 am | |
| Thierry Carrez | Nov 19, 2012 1:47 am | |
| Anne Gentle | Nov 19, 2012 7:03 am | |
| Thierry Carrez | Nov 19, 2012 7:55 am | |
| Boris Renski Jr. | Nov 19, 2012 1:17 pm | |
| Thierry Carrez | Nov 20, 2012 2:01 am | |
| Mark McLoughlin | Nov 20, 2012 4:24 am | |
| Mark McLoughlin | Nov 20, 2012 4:44 am | |
| Zane Bitter | Nov 20, 2012 7:50 am | |
| Gabriel Hurley | Nov 20, 2012 11:33 am | |
| Stefano Maffulli | Nov 26, 2012 10:52 am |
| Subject: | [openstack-dev] The future of Incubation and Core | |
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| From: | Thierry Carrez (thie...@openstack.org) | |
| Date: | Nov 7, 2012 8:40:06 am | |
| List: | org.openstack.lists.openstack-dev | |
Hi everyone,
Incubation is currently an OpenStack project status that grants a promising project more access to OpenStack shared resources, especially in the CI, release management and QA space. That status lets the promising project prove that it is ready to join other official OpenStack core projects for the next full development cycle.
In the past governance the Project Policy Board was the only decider on Incubation and Core inclusion. With the new governance, the Technical Committee is still the only decider on Incubation status and still proposes projects for Core inclusion, but the Board of Directors has the possibility to veto that Core inclusion.
This creates an awkward process where a project could go all the way through Incubation and be denied Core inclusion at the end of that process, basically wasting OpenStack resources. We need to evolve the Incubation process so that the question of whether a project belongs in "Core" is fully resolved as early as possible. And define how a project can enter, grow or exit the incubation process.
This also raises the question of whether "Core" should really be the only destination of an Incubated project. Which triggers the very question of what OpenStack Core actually is. For some it's the collection of OpenStack projects that work well and complement each other, for others Core should only include the IaaS pieces, for others they should represent the bare minimum you need to implement to be able to be called an "OpenStack Cloud"...
Once "Core" is defined we can evaluate the need for a category that would still be in "OpenStack" but not have the "Core" label on it. Incubation could then lead two ways.
We need to discuss all this in the next two weeks before delegates of the TC will join a committee with Board of Directors delegates to come to a final decision on this. So let the public discussion begin.
Cheers,
-- Thierry Carrez (ttx) Chair, OpenStack Technical Committee
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