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| Subject: | Re: [Taxacom] validation of taxon names | |
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| From: | Richard Pyle (deep...@bishopmuseum.org) | |
| Date: | Feb 19, 2012 12:14:26 pm | |
| List: | edu.ku.nhm.mailman.taxacom | |
Dragging it back a bit, my list of five services I think would be useful were:
1. Is this a name?
GNI
2. Is this the correct way to write it?
IPNI/Tropicos/Index Fungorum/MycoBank/ List of Bacteria Names/ZooBank/Systema Dipterorum/Catalog of Fishes/Hymenoptera Name Server/etc./etc.
3. Is this name currently in use?
CoL/ITIS/various GSDs/WikiSpecies
4. What other names are related to this name (e.g., synonyms, lexical variants)?
GNUB/WikiSpecies/etc.
5. Where was this name published? Can I see that publication?
IPNI/Tropicos/Index Fungorum/MycoBank/ List of Bacteria Names/ ZooBank/etc./etc. + GNUB/WikiSpecies/etc. --> BHL/PLAZI
I still think most of this is pretty straightforward to do.
In principle it is. Technically it is. But, somehow, it hasn't happened (yet). Maybe -- with a bit more development and integration of the alphabet soup (only a tiny fraction of which is listed above) -- we can begin to see glimmers of success. I'm convinced the vision is there. Some of the money is there. And certainly the technology is there. We just need to figure out how to connect the dots.
Number 3 could perhaps be best phrased as "what name should I use?." As much as we might dislike the question (there will often be multiple possible names, and some argument about which to use), I suspect many uses don't care about these minor details, they want a name to use for their purposes.
I totally agree. Hence my suggestion of the integration of meta-authorities (CoL/etc.), and the development of an "I'm Feeling Lucky" algorithm (which, I would presume, would rely in large part on the meta-authorities).
There also seems to be an undercurrent of "this taxonomy stuff is really hard, we can't automate this stuff because taxonomists have special knowledge, etc.". There will always be hard cases that need expertise, but I suspect a lot of the information users need can be computed.
Agreed.
Aloha, Rich
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