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| Subject: | Re: [PHP-DEV] Syntactic improvement to array | |
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| From: | Pierre (pier...@gmail.com) | |
| Date: | Feb 4, 2007 10:40:18 am | |
| List: | net.php.lists.internals | |
On 2/4/07, Ilia Alshanetsky <il...@prohost.org> wrote:
On 4-Feb-07, at 1:14 PM, Pierre wrote:
On 2/4/07, Ilia Alshanetsky <il...@prohost.org> wrote:
I personally find array extremely clear, in recent weeks I had to do A LOT of JavaScript work where the array syntax works in a manner you suggest for PHP and its a massive pain. It does not make for a very clear code. I think the syntax you propose is extremely confusing and we should stick to what we have right now.
If someone does not like this new syntax, he can stick to array(). It is in no way an argument to refuse the new syntax addition.
If you want to make PHP into Perl that's a fine goal I suppose, however that's not something I want to participate in.
That's also hardly an argument as all modern languages support this syntax as wel as an array-like one (in one form or another, using constructors, initializer or special ops).
The argument "if you like to make PHP into <put your worst nightmare here>" is getting old. We argue about OO and PHP using the same one, goto is also such a victim (the spaghetti code FUD).
This syntax has been asked hundred times in the past and we kept find all possible excuses to ignore these requests. I think we will make a mistake if we ignore it once again.
No more cent for this thread :)
--Pierre