107 messages in org.apache.communityRE: DOH! Re: Rules for Revolutionaries
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Subject:RE: DOH! Re: Rules for Revolutionaries
From:Danny Angus (dan@apache.org)
Date:11/09/2002 04:39:15 AM
List:org.apache.community

Craig wrote:

You can over-engineer anything, including a community. But you can also under-engineer, and I get the impression that's sort of where we are right now.

I get the impression that, although many of us feel as if our community is
indeed "under engineered" that infact the feeling is caused by inadequate
communication amongst ourselves. Particularly the tangetial, off-topic and good
old gossip that we would get without effort if we were in a shared physical
location. It seems to me that in many ways we simply need a forum (this one) to
air our gripes and wishes and see what the reaction is. Prrof it seems is that the incubator project and this list were set up, as far
as I can see, simply because the people who thought they were good ideas got
positive feedback from the rest of us, and they are more like organic
expressions of the community's view of itself than engineered solutions.

The problem with anything else is, as Andy pointed out, enforcement.

d.