RE: CGM Open TC meeting? - Dieter Weidenbrueck - org.oasis-open.lists.cgmopen-members

16 messages in org.oasis-open.lists.cgmopen-membersRE: CGM Open TC meeting?

From	Sent On	Attachments
Cruikshank, David W	Sep 19, 2001 1:38 pm
Lofton Henderson	Sep 19, 2001 2:06 pm
Forrest Carpenter	Sep 19, 2001 2:20 pm
Lynne Rosenthal	Sep 19, 2001 3:12 pm
Dieter Weidenbrueck	Sep 20, 2001 12:18 am
Ulrich Laesche	Sep 20, 2001 4:56 am
DULUC Franck	Sep 20, 2001 5:33 am
Lofton Henderson	Sep 20, 2001 9:16 am
Dieter Weidenbrueck	Sep 20, 2001 9:24 am
Lofton Henderson	Sep 20, 2001 9:54 am
Whittaker Harry W CRBE	Sep 20, 2001 10:42 am
Dieter Weidenbrueck	Sep 20, 2001 11:10 am
Kevin O'Kane	Sep 20, 2001 11:24 am
Lofton Henderson	Sep 20, 2001 11:50 am
Ulrich Laesche	Sep 21, 2001 1:34 am
mart...@notes.canadair.ca	Sep 21, 2001 5:20 am

Subject:	RE: CGM Open TC meeting?
From:	Dieter Weidenbrueck (Die...@isodraw.de)
Date:	Sep 20, 2001 11:10:39 am
List:	org.oasis-open.lists.cgmopen-members

Dear Harry,

thanks for your very important remarks. I completely agree with your assessment of the current situation.

I want to emphasize that the interest in the CGM DOM is still there. My impression is that we simply react to the circumstances right now with the TICC week not taking place, and most of the important contributors not going to Vancouver.

On the other side we have scheduled a vendor demo at XML Orlando, and we need to discuss what we will show there.

I assume and suggest that we'll have a technical meeting on Sunday before the XML show to continue the work on the DOM.

Best regards,

Dieter

-----Original Message----- From: Whittaker Harry W CRBE [mailto:Whit...@nswccd.navy.mil] Sent: Donnerstag, 20. September 2001 19:40 To: 'Lofton Henderson'; die...@itedo.com; cgmo...@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: RE: CGM Open TC meeting?

To all interested parties:

The DOD community has been doing due diligence and industry monitoring in many areas but this e-mail concerns Technical manuals and drawings. As many of you know, I'm a member of CGMOpen and have been attending the ATA meetings for the past 3 or more years now. I'm either directly involved or peripherally involved in numerous conversion efforts or technical documentation authoring. We have a few projects that are looking at life cycle costs and capabilities. They have been following the work on SVG and the W3C recommendation of that format specification.

Numerous vendors claim SVG support and even ISODraw has some output support for this specification. One of the key factors programs are looking at other than the XML implementations is that it has a DOM. With all the recent e-mail traffic it looks like with the cancellation of the TICC week, we have shifted the emphasis of the DOM work to getting ready for the demo in Orlando. I think that might be a good short term goal but not good for bringing home the fact that CGM and webCGM is the format to use for your technical drawings.

As a community we need to remember that the DOD and FAA and other larger industries have numerous drawings that need to be converted to vector. Most if not all of the CGM tools are for authoring. Many of the ship, airplanes plant drawings and large architectural drawings are modifications to existing drawings not new drawings. With the shrinking budget dollars we are trying to tie technical documentation with training. Traditionally training has used flashy and animated drawings or videos to aid in the training process.

Other questions are we as a community working with displaying CGM or webCGM graphics on a PDA? Additionally has anyone looked into the SCORM work and bring CGM into the fold. We also need to be able to show that the creation and use of CGM tools is cost effective.

Any help in answering the above questions and then the basic question of CGM verses SVG would be very helpful.

thanks, harry

-----Original Message----- From: Lofton Henderson [mailto:lof...@rockynet.com] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 12:54 PM To: die...@itedo.com; cgmo...@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: RE: CGM Open TC meeting?

Wed 9/26 works for me.

Don, Forrest, Ulrich, Kevin -- can you do it Wednesday? Please answer ASAP so that we can set time and arrange facility. I will propose a time: 11am EDT (5pm Germany, 9am MDT, 8am PDT).

Oh, and about volunteering to draft a paragraph, a strawman scenario (Abstract). It doesn't have to be one of the 5 participating vendors, but I thought one of you might have some hot ideas about what we should do.

Anyone?

At 06:22 PM 9/20/01 +0200, Dieter Weidenbrueck wrote:

Lofton,

I'll be travelling in the US starting Thu 9/27 through Oct 6. It will be difficult for me to participate in a telecon during that timeframe. I suggest that we do it on Wednesday if possible.

-----Original Message----- From: Lofton Henderson [mailto:lof...@rockynet.com] Sent: Donnerstag, 20. September 2001 18:16 To: cgmo...@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: RE: CGM Open TC meeting?

It seems clear that there will be no face-to-face meetings.

We must proceed with Vendor Offering planning. These vendors have said they will participate:

Auto-trol Ematek ITEDO Larson Software SDI

Two questions:

1. Can each of you five participate in a 1-hour teleconference next Thursday, 9/27?

2. Will someone volunteer to draft a brief strawman scenario (Abstract) before then?

The scenario should probably involve the WebCGM test suite, probably involve some real-world types of files in addition, for example like the Granada stuff. There will be a couple of simultaneous system projectors available, so people could display stuff pair-wise. We're emphasizing standard-based products, interoperability based on WebCGM, and the fact that WebCGM-based solutions are available, here and now.

Probably the last is a good theme or perspective -- here is a bunch of standards-based technology and products that works, interoperates, and is available now to solve the web graphics problems in WebCGM's domain.

As I said, volunteer?

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