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6 messages in com.googlegroups.google-mashup-editor[gme] Re: Integration with App Engine

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Michael	14 Jun 2008 09:41
Ray	14 Jun 2008 12:16
Michael O'Neal	14 Jun 2008 13:55
Ray	14 Jun 2008 22:42
Michael O'Neal	15 Jun 2008 06:02
Ray	15 Jun 2008 14:20

Subject:	[gme] Re: Integration with App Engine
From:	Ray (rayc...@gmail.com)
Date:	06/15/2008 02:20:01 PM
List:	com.googlegroups.google-mashup-editor

Michael,

Gee. I am sorry you took my last response so personal! I am here trying to find answers like yourself. Sorry if you felt my last post was off topic.

Lets return to your original question:

I was wondering if there is some way to integrate Google App Engine

and its Datastore API with GME?

I reviewed every presentation at the Google I/O conference and could not find any mention of Google App Engine and its Datastore API integrated with GME. In fact, I could not find any discussion on GME. Let's hope Google Developers shed more light on your question.

On Jun 15, 9:02 am, "Michael O'Neal" <mich...@gmail.com> wrote:

Ray,

I consider your last response very much off topic. I'm not a child and do not need such advice.

Michael

On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 10:42 PM, Ray <rayc...@gmail.com> wrote:

Michael,

If you are building a mission critical application using a large database as you describe why even consider GME? I am questioning Google's commitment to this application even for very simple applications. I think they are moving all their efforts to Google App + Gdata API or possibly another soon to be release product. Notice an earlier thread on a lack of support here - ie fewer software releases, no discussion of GME at Google I/O, GME server going down quite often. It makes me wonder if we are spinning our wheels here. It it not like we can take our code and find another compiler. We are stuck. Ray

On Jun 14, 4:56 pm, "Michael O'Neal" <mich...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks Ray,

I have used Google Spreadsheets for simple databases and, like you say, they work well. Spreadsheets have a 10m row limit and one is not able to define subclasses nor index various fields and many other things cannot be done even with the integration of Yahoo Pipes.

I am interested integration with App Engine datastore that can handle millions of data entities in more flexible ways than is possible with a two dimensional database. It also indexes most data types automatically making for fast and efficient queries over a vast amount of data.

Thanks much for your consideration, Michael

On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Ray <rayc...@gmail.com> wrote:

Michael,

I just starting working with GME and I have also struggled with the data side of the application. Something to consider is Google Docs and the Google Data API which is fully integrated with GME. What I use is a simple Google Spreadsheet saved to a CSV file. I then use Yahoo Pipes to create an RSS feed from the CSV file to pull the data inside of GME. A new feature of Google Spreadsheet is the ability to create a simple web form that is easy to embed in widgets and web pages. Even if you need a more sophisticated database you need to look at this approach. Google Spreadsheets + Yahoo Pipes + GME is fantastic and is the best solution for small databases.

On Jun 14, 12:41 pm, Michael <Mich...@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm having a great time with GME. I really enjoy being able to integrate Picasa, Maps, feeds, etc. with so little effort.

My main problems arise with the data storage and retrieval. The 1m per stripe limit, lack of indexing ability, not being able to enumerate stripes, etc.

I was wondering if there is some way to integrate Google App Engine and its Datastore API with GME?

Hope so,