| From | Sent On | Attachments |
|---|---|---|
| Robison, Dave | Feb 17, 2012 2:05 pm | |
| Chuck Swiger | Feb 17, 2012 2:17 pm | |
| Devin Teske | Feb 17, 2012 2:34 pm | |
| Maxim Khitrov | Feb 17, 2012 2:40 pm | |
| Douglas Carmichael | Feb 17, 2012 2:42 pm | |
| Polytropon | Feb 17, 2012 2:46 pm | |
| Jerry McAllister | Feb 17, 2012 2:48 pm | |
| Douglas Carmichael | Feb 17, 2012 2:50 pm | |
| Jerry McAllister | Feb 17, 2012 2:53 pm | |
| Da Rock | Feb 17, 2012 2:54 pm | |
| Devin Teske | Feb 17, 2012 3:11 pm | |
| Julian H. Stacey | Feb 17, 2012 3:19 pm | |
| Polytropon | Feb 17, 2012 3:22 pm | |
| Robison, Dave | Feb 17, 2012 3:24 pm | |
| Da Rock | Feb 17, 2012 3:29 pm | |
| Chris Hill | Feb 17, 2012 3:49 pm | |
| Chuck Swiger | Feb 17, 2012 3:55 pm | |
| Devin Teske | Feb 17, 2012 4:02 pm | |
| Robison, Dave | Feb 17, 2012 4:09 pm | |
| Devin Teske | Feb 17, 2012 4:11 pm | |
| Chuck Swiger | Feb 17, 2012 4:40 pm | |
| Devin Teske | Feb 17, 2012 4:54 pm | |
| Da Rock | Feb 17, 2012 4:54 pm | |
| Da Rock | Feb 17, 2012 4:59 pm | |
| Devin Teske | Feb 17, 2012 5:05 pm | |
| Devin Teske | Feb 17, 2012 5:09 pm | |
| Chuck Swiger | Feb 17, 2012 5:13 pm | |
| David Brodbeck | Feb 17, 2012 5:17 pm | |
| Da Rock | Feb 17, 2012 5:17 pm | |
| Doug Hardie | Feb 17, 2012 5:50 pm | |
| Erich Dollansky | Feb 17, 2012 6:08 pm | |
| Daniel Staal | Feb 17, 2012 6:16 pm | |
| Da Rock | Feb 17, 2012 7:16 pm | |
| Leslie Jensen | Feb 17, 2012 9:44 pm | |
| Lars Eighner | Feb 17, 2012 10:05 pm | |
| Robert Bonomi | Feb 17, 2012 10:32 pm | |
| Robert Bonomi | Feb 17, 2012 11:15 pm | |
| Erich Dollansky | Feb 17, 2012 11:47 pm | |
| Doug Hardie | Feb 17, 2012 11:54 pm | |
| Matthew Seaman | Feb 18, 2012 12:39 am | |
| Polytropon | Feb 18, 2012 2:12 am | |
| Polytropon | Feb 18, 2012 2:22 am | |
| Da Rock | Feb 18, 2012 2:43 am | |
| Damien Fleuriot | Feb 18, 2012 3:06 am | |
| Damien Fleuriot | Feb 18, 2012 3:10 am | |
| Matthew Seaman | Feb 18, 2012 3:23 am | |
| Da Rock | Feb 18, 2012 3:36 am | |
| Polytropon | Feb 18, 2012 3:39 am | |
| Da Rock | Feb 18, 2012 3:56 am | |
| Matthew Seaman | Feb 18, 2012 5:38 am | |
| Da Rock | Feb 18, 2012 5:47 am | |
| Matthew Seaman | Feb 18, 2012 6:28 am | |
| Robert Bonomi | Feb 18, 2012 6:45 am | |
| RW | Feb 18, 2012 6:54 am | |
| Da Rock | Feb 18, 2012 6:54 am | |
| Polytropon | Feb 18, 2012 8:26 am | |
| Jerry McAllister | Feb 18, 2012 1:06 pm | |
| Jerry McAllister | Feb 18, 2012 1:33 pm | |
| Michael Sierchio | Feb 18, 2012 2:45 pm | |
| Matthew Story | Feb 18, 2012 3:08 pm | |
| Daniel Staal | Feb 18, 2012 3:10 pm | |
| Michael Sierchio | Feb 18, 2012 3:31 pm | |
| Erich Dollansky | Feb 18, 2012 5:03 pm | |
| Jerry McAllister | Feb 18, 2012 6:30 pm | |
| Erich Dollansky | Feb 18, 2012 7:54 pm | |
| Carl Johnson | Feb 18, 2012 8:39 pm | |
| Erich Dollansky | Feb 18, 2012 9:26 pm | |
| Stephen Cook | Feb 18, 2012 11:21 pm | |
| Julian H. Stacey | Feb 19, 2012 6:29 am | |
| Daniel Staal | Feb 19, 2012 8:10 am | |
| parv | Feb 19, 2012 8:43 am | |
| Julian H. Stacey | Feb 19, 2012 10:37 am | |
| Da Rock | Feb 20, 2012 6:44 am | |
| Jerry McAllister | Feb 20, 2012 6:47 am | |
| Jerry McAllister | Feb 20, 2012 6:55 am | |
| Jerry McAllister | Feb 20, 2012 6:58 am | |
| Julian H. Stacey | Feb 20, 2012 8:14 am | |
| Jerry McAllister | Feb 20, 2012 8:34 am | |
| Devin Teske | Feb 20, 2012 8:36 am | |
| Julian H. Stacey | Feb 20, 2012 9:43 am | |
| Robison, Dave | Feb 20, 2012 1:43 pm | |
| Paul Mather | Feb 20, 2012 2:05 pm | |
| Erich Dollansky | Feb 20, 2012 6:09 pm | |
| Chip Camden | Feb 20, 2012 9:25 pm | |
| Erich Dollansky | Feb 20, 2012 9:40 pm | |
| Robert Bonomi | Feb 20, 2012 10:06 pm | |
| Chip Camden | Feb 20, 2012 10:19 pm | |
| Doug Hardie | Feb 20, 2012 10:52 pm | |
| Erich Dollansky | Feb 20, 2012 11:37 pm | |
| Erich Dollansky | Feb 20, 2012 11:43 pm | |
| Robert Bonomi | Feb 21, 2012 4:38 am | |
| Polytropon | Feb 21, 2012 7:18 am | |
| Jerry McAllister | Feb 21, 2012 7:56 am | |
| per...@pluto.rain.com | Feb 21, 2012 10:13 am | |
| David Brodbeck | Feb 21, 2012 11:47 am | |
| Erich Dollansky | Feb 21, 2012 4:43 pm | |
| Erich Dollansky | Feb 21, 2012 4:50 pm |
| Subject: | Re: /usr/home vs /home (was: Re: One or Four?) | |
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| From: | Lars Eighner (la...@larseighner.com) | |
| Date: | Feb 17, 2012 10:05:26 pm | |
| List: | org.freebsd.freebsd-questions | |
On Fri, 17 Feb 2012, Daniel Staal wrote:
--As of February 17, 2012 11:46:23 PM +0100, Polytropon is alleged to have said:
Well, to be honest, I never liked the "old style" default with /home being part of /usr. As I mentioned before, _my_ default style for separated partitions include:
/ swap /tmp /var /usr /home
In special cases, add /opt or /scratch as separate partitions with intendedly limited sizes.
You can see that all user data is kept independently from the rest of the system. It can easily be switched over to a separate "home disk" if needed.
--As for the rest, it is mine.
I'm in agreement with you on that I like to have /home be a separate partition, and not under /usr.
It seems to me that partition and mount point are being confused to a degree. There is no reason what is mounted at /usr/home cannot be a separate partition as well as if it were mounted at root. There are some good reasons for the user directories (and perhaps some other data) to be on a separate partition - mostly the reasons relate to ease of back up and migration whether planned or emergency. Arguments about where to mount that partition are not so practical, being more in the philosophic and historical realm. Pick one, recognize not everyone will be on the same page and put appropriate links in.
(Of course, my current zfs system has 40 partitions...) Partly though I recognize that I like it because that's what I'm used to, and how I learned to set it up originally. (My first unix experience was with OpenBSD, over 10 years ago now.)
I've never seen anything listing the main reasons for having /home under /usr though. I figure there must be a decent reason why. Would anyone care to enlighten me? What are the perceived advantages? (Particularly if you then make a symlink to /home.)
There may have been a historic reason, but now it is philosophical - trying to keep the system and userland distinction clear. But there are many flaws in the attempted separation. /var for example is the default location for many logs, both system and user, the spools (remember news?), and databases. You really cannot drop /usr into a different system and have an operational result.
(I put the home directories, the www directory, databases and spools all on the same physical partition which I mount arbitrarily at /usr/local/data. It isn't exactly plug-n-play, but in tests and emergencies is has proved practical to drop the partition into several linices with a high level of functionally - depending on application versioning being close to in sync.)
-- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266
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