20 messages in org.gnome.desktop-devel-listRe: GNOME's testing strategy for GUIs
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Willie WalkerFeb 14, 2008 10:42 am 
Nickolay V. ShmyrevFeb 14, 2008 10:53 am 
Brad TaylorFeb 14, 2008 11:08 am 
John StowersFeb 14, 2008 1:18 pm 
Brad TaylorFeb 14, 2008 1:25 pm 
John StowersFeb 14, 2008 1:34 pm 
David BolterFeb 14, 2008 1:56 pm 
David BolterFeb 14, 2008 1:58 pm 
Nagappan AFeb 14, 2008 9:48 pm 
Vincent UntzFeb 15, 2008 6:09 am 
Emmanuel FleuryFeb 15, 2008 6:33 am 
Nagappan AFeb 15, 2008 7:03 am 
Willie WalkerFeb 15, 2008 8:40 am 
David BolterFeb 16, 2008 9:41 am 
Willie WalkerFeb 16, 2008 1:50 pm 
Luis VillaFeb 16, 2008 2:00 pm 
Luis VillaFeb 17, 2008 5:20 am 
APIFeb 20, 2008 8:12 am 
Qi-Bo Paul MeiFeb 20, 2008 2:00 pm.Other
Nagappan AFeb 22, 2008 9:51 am 
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Subject:Re: GNOME's testing strategy for GUIsActions...
From:Willie Walker (Will@Sun.COM)
Date:Feb 15, 2008 8:40:50 am
List:org.gnome.desktop-devel-list

Hey All:

Great discussion so far. I just want to add something about why regression testing is important to me. In the Orca project, we have a regression test suite that we use regularly. It helps give us great sanity checking that our changes and bug fixes don't introduce new problems. It has caught issues introduced by those infamous simple-one-liner-cannot-hurt-a-thing fixes, and it has also been a great tool to help us with performance analysis.

It took a while to ingrain it into the Orca culture, but regression testing is just so useful to us that I cannot imagine NOT doing it. This is not a call to use Orca's stuff, BTW. It's just amplifying the need for and usefulness of regression across all of GNOME.

An interesting scenario might be to hook up with the build brigade folks. We might have a set of systems that just continually build GNOME, but we might dedicate another set of systems to continually build GNOME followed by a complete set of regression tests. At the same time, individual component developers should also be able to set up their own machines to focus testing just on their components. For example, as soon as http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=508147 is fixed, I hope to work on a cronjob to automatically test Orca against nightly builds of Firefox.

Finally, IMO the focus on the regression tests should be more about coverage of the important stuff and less about the time it takes to run them. For example, even if they took 7 days to run, that would still give us tons better coverage and would detect integration problems far sooner.

Will

Nagappan A wrote:

Hi Vincent,

Currently the scripts are not compatible. We are ready to support it, to an extent !

Thanks Nagappan

On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Vincent Untz <vun@gnome.org <mailto:vun@gnome.org>> wrote:

Le jeudi 14 février 2008, à 21:48 -0800, Nagappan A a écrit : > LDTP team is ready to implement what ever the features required by GNOME > community.

Is it possible to have some script to convert dogtail scripts to LDTP ones (and vice versa)? Or have a common format?

I think one thing that is currently blocking all this is that we have both LDTP and dogtail, and we don't choose one of the two solutions. Being able to use both will just make things easier and will enable to move to the next steps.

Vincent

-- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés.

-- Linux Desktop (GUI Application) Testing Project - http://ldtp.freedesktop.org http://nagappanal.blogspot.com

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