atom feed51 messages in at.iem.pd-devRe: [PD-dev] Yves Degoyon
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Subject:Re: [PD-dev] Yves Degoyon
From:Mathieu Bouchard (mat@artengine.ca)
Date:Dec 30, 2005 6:39:43 am
List:at.iem.pd-dev

On Thu, 29 Dec 2005, Marc Lavallée wrote:

Le 29 Décembre 2005 21:56, Mathieu Bouchard a écrit :

This goes against FSF/GNU's FSD, rule "Freedom Zero" (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html)

Yes. But this is only because the FSF wants the user to decide what's good or bad.

And then what? Does that make it a lesser freedom? And what makes you believe that this is the only reason for Freedom 0 ?

And also against OSI's OSD, rule 6 (http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php)

Wrong interpretation: the term "military or repressive use" does not relate to any speficic activity, because so many fields of endeavor are involved in the business of repression.

I invite you to reread rule 6 and tell me how the given example of "business" is any less vague than "military". I agree that "repressive use" is incredibly vague, but since that's a "or" clause, we also have to consider the word "military" on its own.

But it complies with rule 5: "No Discrimination Against Persons or Groups", because using force against people usually involves discrimination.

Rule 5 does not apply, because it refers to discrimination in who's allowed to use the software. How the software is used to apply discrimination against people is outside of the scope of rule 5 unless it's about the rights on what may be done with the software itself.

It's a "modified" BSD licence, it's open and compatible... But this first phrase is simply an opinion, and legally almost irrelevent.

How do you know? Why is it written in LICENSE.txt? Just because it's not written in legalese doesn't make it any less worthy of consideration, it just makes it more open to interpretation.

B.T.W. the Internet was also developed by the Pentagon, so maybe PiDiP should not be downloaded from the Internet, since this network is being used for war and repression.

PiDiP's license does not prescribe how a user should download the software. Don't say "maybe", say "really not".