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Subject:Re: [Taxacom] validation of taxon names
From:Stephen Thorpe (step@yahoo.co.nz)
Date:Feb 19, 2012 7:52:08 pm
List:edu.ku.nhm.mailman.taxacom

if "valid" means the same in botany as it does in zoology, then only one of
those names can be the valid name ... though which one is valid may be
subjective ...

________________________________ From: "Weakley, Alan" <weak@bio.unc.edu> To: Kenneth Kinman <kenn@webtv.net>; "taxa@mailman.nhm.ku.edu"
<taxa@mailman.nhm.ku.edu> Sent: Monday, 20 February 2012 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [Taxacom] validation of taxon names

IPNI makes no taxonomic judgment; it just records names (nomenclature).  It
correctly records Chamaecyparis nootkatensis as a valid name, as well as
Xanthocyparis nootkatensis, also a valid name, and Cupressus nootkatensis,
another valid name (and the Basionym for the others).  It points out that there
is a nomenclatural issue that apparently (I have made no investigation of my
own) renders the combination Callitropsis nootkatensis invalid and unavailable.

Take your pick on the taxonomy.  And if someone wants to treat it in
Callitropsis, it looks like some nomenclatural action will be needed.

Alan Weakley, Ph.D. Director and Curator, University of North Carolina Herbarium (NCU), North
Carolina Botanical Garden Adjunct Assistant Professor, Department of Biology and Curriculum for the
Environment and Ecology, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Mail:  Campus Box 3280, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3280 Email:  weak@unc.edu Phone:  919.619.1101

-----Original Message----- From: taxa@mailman.nhm.ku.edu
[mailto:taxa@mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Kenneth Kinman Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 10:28 PM To: taxa@mailman.nhm.ku.edu Subject: Re: [Taxacom] validation of taxon names

Hi Stephen,       And your efforts are appreciated.  If you have the means to do so,

it would be nice to correct the Wikipedia which still shows Xanthocyparis as a
synonym of Callitropsis, and thus using the incorrect

name combination Callitropsis vietnamensis.  This seems particularly important
because it is an endangered species.

      I would also hope that databases such as IPNI would stop using the

name combination Chamaecyparis nootkatensis, which is very unlikely to be
correct.  A case can be made for including it in Xanthocyparis, Callitropsis (if
it doesn't clade with vietnamensis), or even a broad Cupressus.  However, I can
find nothing in the recent literature which supports placing it in
Chamaecyparis.       -----------Ken                           

------------------------------------------------------- Stephen Thorpe wrote: I am working constantly to improve the data structure on Wikispecies, so

as to allow the user to see where the data is coming from and how it links
together (and how it links with other databases), and where the problems are ...  

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