atom feed48 messages in net.java.dev.jugs.jug-leaders[jug-leaders] Re: That's bad for JavaFx
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Subject:[jug-leaders] Re: That's bad for JavaFx
From:Frans Thamura (fra@meruvian.org)
Date:Aug 17, 2012 12:35:53 am
List:net.java.dev.jugs.jug-leaders

Imagine if all of us vote. 900 jug leader member here

Will direction and decision follow what will.happen? On Aug 17, 2012 2:15 PM, "Hildeberto Mendonça" <me@hildeberto.com> wrote:

Well said Manfred! Well said. :-)

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 7:39 AM, Manfred Moser <manf@mosabuam.com>wrote:

On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Bruno F. Souza <bru@javaman.com.br>wrote:

Yes, yes, I guess we would all agree that the best is neither, that we prefer Java to be updated :-) So, one thing we need to consider is the install and update of the Java VM in all systems going forward. This is not an easy nut to crack, and Jigsaw is our main hope right now... it is unfortunate that is has been delayed...

I agree with Hildeberto that it is important to crack this problem. However I fail to see how it is so hard .. Google Chrome and Firefox are showing nicely how to do:

Release regularly - update automatically with no user intervention, just do it - make it hard for the user to stick to an old version

As you rightfully said the users dont want to have to care... so lets care of it for them. Update automatically. Let's just be brave about this and get on with it. Also imagine what pressure it would put on the quality of Java, the JRE and so on as well as any Java programs if any developer can expect to have some users running with the LATEST Java release and in fact over time the majority running with it.

it would make the progess updating to Java 7 and going forward 8 and 9 MUCH faster and better.. the time to do this is yesterday.

manfred http://simpligility.com

manfred

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