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1. Re: Make "standard header files" NOT expand RCS keywords? (Arnt
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Message: 1 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:04:01 +0100 From: Arnt Gulbrandsen <arnt at gulbrandsen.priv.no> To: Dave Lewis <dlewis at vignette.com> Cc: david.karr at cacheflow.com, perforce-user at perforce.com Subject: Re: [p4] Make "standard header files" NOT expand RCS keywords?

Dave Lewis <dlewis at vignette.com>

Perhaps, but it used to be on, if my memory serves me correctly.

We were using p4 on an intercontinental link. Ten time zones from client to server. For some reason submits were far too slow, and IIRC the problem was keyword expansion, which was on by default. "p4 edit -t text" on all of our .cpp and .h files speeded that up nicely.

--Arnt

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Message: 2 From: Sall...@symbian.com To: perforce-user at perforce.com Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:45:12 +0000 Subject: [p4] new cm website

quite a useful new site :

http://www.snuffybear.com/ucmcentral.htm

Sally Page Configuration Management Engineer Symbian (UK) Ltd Direct: 020 7563 2912 Mobile: 07769 588915

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Message: 2 From: "Karl Philipp" <karl.philipp at danet.de> To: "Mailinglist Perforce User" <perforce-user at perforce.com> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:04:35 +0100 Subject: [p4] An Update Problem

Hi,

A vendor delivered last week:

SS_OE.doc (Version 2)

Now the vendor has delivered:

SS_OE.pdf (Version 3)

That is the recent delivered version has another type: PDF

How can I update the old version with the new version?

IMO, the described approach on Perforce's web-site (p4 rename) doesn't work properly in this case, because the lazy branching method creates a new version that is not really a pdf file but the last doc file.

Any other idea?

so long

Karl

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Message: 3 Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 12:07:01 -0500 To: "Karl Philipp" <karl.philipp at danet.de>, "Mailinglist Perforce User" <perforce-user at perforce.com> From: Stephen Vance <steve at vance.com> Subject: Re: [p4] An Update Problem

I would just delete the old one and add the new one. The old one may serve the same function and have the same logical content, but is a different packaging and physical form. If you play games to make the history of the PDF flow directly into the DOC, you are essentially stating they are the same thing at different revisions. This is true from a logical perspective ("It's the documentation"), but not from a CM perspective. Just ask yourself the question, "How would I handle it if they gave the docs in two or more formats (e.g. HTML, PDF, DOC, PS)?"

At 05:04 PM 11/23/2001 +0100, Karl Philipp wrote:

Stephen Vance mailto:steve at vance.com http://www.vance.com/

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