atom feed77 messages in org.freebsd.freebsd-stableRe: Releases
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Hays, SamApr 9, 2001 6:32 am 
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Subject:Re: Releases
From:Matthew Emmerton (ma@gsicomp.on.ca)
Date:Apr 9, 2001 8:06:08 am
List:org.freebsd.freebsd-stable

* Steve Tremblett <sj@cisco.com> [010409 14:59]:

+--- James Raftery wrote: | Argh! RELENG_4 is *always* 4-STABLE. An RC is a particularly "stable" | phase of 4-STABLE development because it's subject to a code-freeze and | is about to become a -RELEASE.

To be honest, FreeBSD's definition of BETA or RELEASE CANDIDATE is contrary to common understanding of the terms. BETA or RC implies new code that is currently in the testing phase (well RC implies that it is almost ready for release, but it still hasn't been proven as ready).

How is that different for FreeBSD then?

The RC designation seems to be "normal". The BETA designation does not. Is there any reason why we really need a -BETA tag, or could we just go from -STABLE to -RC1? I think this would be less confusing to people who are new to FreeBSD's scheme of things.

[ On a related note, -CURRENT seems to suggest the wrong thing. I've had the unlucky experience of recovering production boxes (!!) that previous admins had decided to update to -CURRENT because, hey, it must be the best code, right? IMHO, -CURRENT should be -DEV. That's a pretty clear indication that it shouldn't be run on production boxes. ]

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