|Don||Feb 4, 1999 4:32 am|
|Adauto Souza||Feb 4, 1999 4:39 am|
|Andrew Gallatin||Feb 4, 1999 6:09 am|
|Doug Rabson||Feb 4, 1999 6:22 am|
|Joerg Czeranski||Feb 4, 1999 6:40 am|
|Andrew Gallatin||Feb 4, 1999 6:53 am|
|Scot Elliott||Feb 4, 1999 6:56 am|
|Stuart Krivis||Feb 4, 1999 7:28 am|
|Martin Heller||Feb 4, 1999 8:19 am|
|Todd Vierling||Feb 4, 1999 8:26 am|
|Ted Spradley||Feb 4, 1999 8:33 am|
|Stuart Krivis||Feb 4, 1999 8:42 am|
|Ted Spradley||Feb 4, 1999 8:47 am|
|Matthew Jacob||Feb 4, 1999 9:41 am|
|Don||Feb 4, 1999 7:26 pm|
|Don||Feb 4, 1999 7:46 pm|
|Peter Wemm||Feb 4, 1999 7:54 pm|
|Terry Lambert||Feb 4, 1999 8:08 pm|
|Jason Thorpe||Feb 4, 1999 8:42 pm|
|Jason Thorpe||Feb 4, 1999 8:48 pm|
|Peter Wemm||Feb 4, 1999 10:01 pm|
|Christian Weisgerber||Feb 5, 1999 2:09 am|
|Scot Elliott||Feb 5, 1999 2:51 am|
|Christian Weisgerber||Feb 5, 1999 1:35 pm|
|Don||Feb 5, 1999 1:45 pm|
|John Birrell||Feb 5, 1999 1:56 pm|
|Don||Feb 5, 1999 4:50 pm|
|Doug Rabson||Feb 9, 1999 11:59 am|
|Subject:||Re: alpha PC|
|Date:||Feb 5, 1999 1:45:16 pm|
As far as I know MILO requires ARC firmware because it gets loaded from a DOS partition by ARC at boot time.
Actually, MILO *is* firmware. You can replace ARC or SRM with MILO in the flash rom, and in fact I have access to a box where this has been done.
Ya know folks, the original reason for my reply was not to start a debate on ARC vs SRM and how they differ at a palcode level ... and whether or not MILO is or is not firmware ... it was to simply try to tell someone that we did not have FreeBSD working on ARC only systems as of yet (last time I checked anyway) with a brief and *oversimplified* reason.
There one thing I find really amusing is that I was just told that MILO both is and is not firmware. I was completely unaware that there was MILO firmware. As for MILO changing the PALcode and not the firmware as I said ... that was just my effort to be simple and not bring PALcode into it.
If we are going to spend so much time re-explaining everything every time someone asks I will gladly set up FreeBSD Alpha web pages dealing with the history of the project and the design problems faced by the project. These pages could also detail some of the specifics like the ARC vs SRM vs MILO deal so that all of the information is in one place. (I realize there are explanations out there already but it would nice to be able to go to www.freebsd.org/alpha and get the complete state of the alpha port along with history to we can just tell ppl to go to http://www.freebsd.org/alpha for more info) I believe there is also a currently supported hardware list and the two sets of pages could be linked.
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