35 messages in com.redhat.fedora-listRe: Problem booting after Yum update ...
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Subject:Re: Problem booting after Yum update of FC4Actions...
From:James Wilkinson (fed@westexe.demon.co.uk)
Date:Dec 8, 2005 12:20:18 am
List:com.redhat.fedora-list

I suggested:

Try "ping google.com" for several hours, and see how many packets you drop.

Tim wrote:

I hope you don't mean continuously. That would constitute abuse.

That's a fairly harsh definition of abuse you've got.

They've made the ping service available in the same way as they make the HTTP service available. Accessing Google's web pages once a second would not be OTT for a suitably busy site.

Continuous pinging *is* necessary occasionally as a form of network diagnostic: it tells the network administrator whether (and in conjunction with traceroute, where) to complain about network timeouts.

I selected Google partly because of the size and capacity of their servers and network connections.

I don't think I'm abusing Google. I'm using the facilities they make available in the way they're supposed to be used. And I'm not taking anywhere *near* unreasonably large amounts of resources to do so.

So why do you think it's abuse?

James.