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Subject:[c-nsp] autonegotiating hub was: Deferred packets on 2950 10/full interfaceActions...
From:Gert Doering (ge@greenie.muc.de)
Date:Jan 15, 2005 11:20:01 am
List:net.nether.puck.cisco-nsp

Hi,

On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 07:16:13AM -0500, lee.@census.gov wrote:

was non autonegotiating. This caused problems with many autonegotiating hubs as the card had problems figuring out if something was

Speaking of atrocity, what is an "autonegotiating hub"?

Anything marketed as a dual-speed or 10/100 hub.

These were actually two separate hubs (and as such: half-duplex only) with a bridge in between - with the ports being switched to one hub or the other, depending on the link speed.

Link speed negotiaton and half-duplex/full-duplex negotiation are two completely different pair of shoes.

Hubs will NEVER do full-duplex - it's impossible by design. Think what happens if two stations send simultaneously.

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Cheap combination of both - they act like there's an internal 2 port switch for switching traffic between the 10Mb hub ports and the 100Mb hub ports.

Exactly. But each of the hubs is a hub is a hub.

gert