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| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 15, 2009 8:52 pm | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 16, 2009 1:24 am | |
| ydeg...@free.fr | Feb 16, 2009 8:32 am | |
| Loic Kessous | Feb 16, 2009 9:39 am | |
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| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 16, 2009 11:59 am | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 16, 2009 12:01 pm | |
| Roman Haefeli | Feb 16, 2009 1:28 pm | |
| Matt Barber | Feb 16, 2009 1:32 pm | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 16, 2009 1:45 pm | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 16, 2009 1:57 pm | |
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| Roman Haefeli | Feb 16, 2009 2:52 pm | |
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| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 16, 2009 8:38 pm | |
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| Matt Barber | Feb 16, 2009 9:36 pm | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 16, 2009 10:10 pm | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 16, 2009 10:24 pm | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 16, 2009 10:29 pm | |
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| Roman Haefeli | Feb 16, 2009 11:28 pm | |
| Roman Haefeli | Feb 16, 2009 11:28 pm | |
| Roman Haefeli | Feb 16, 2009 11:36 pm | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 17, 2009 12:36 am | |
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| IOhannes m zmoelnig | Feb 17, 2009 1:06 am | |
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| Loic Kessous | Feb 17, 2009 1:48 am | |
| IOhannes m zmoelnig | Feb 17, 2009 1:52 am | |
| marius schebella | Feb 17, 2009 2:24 am | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 17, 2009 4:27 am | |
| dmotd | Feb 17, 2009 8:14 am | |
| Matt Barber | Feb 17, 2009 8:17 am | |
| Matt Barber | Feb 17, 2009 9:01 am | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 17, 2009 10:31 am | |
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| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 17, 2009 10:48 am | |
| Roman Haefeli | Feb 17, 2009 10:59 am | |
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| Frank Barknecht | Feb 17, 2009 12:00 pm | |
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| Steffen Juul | Feb 17, 2009 12:25 pm | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 17, 2009 12:59 pm | |
| Roman Haefeli | Feb 17, 2009 1:02 pm | |
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| marius schebella | Feb 17, 2009 2:29 pm | |
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| IOhannes m zmoelnig | Feb 18, 2009 12:20 am | |
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| Andy Farnell | Feb 18, 2009 7:02 am | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 18, 2009 9:00 am | |
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| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 18, 2009 9:35 am | |
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| Subject: | Re: [PD-dev] pow~ in Cyclone [was: Re: stripping down Pd-extended's default libs] | |
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| From: | Frank Barknecht (fb...@footils.org) | |
| Date: | Feb 16, 2009 10:29:36 pm | |
| List: | at.iem.pd-dev | |
Hallo, Matt Barber hat gesagt: // Matt Barber wrote:
Getting rid of cyclone's pow~ would break all of the patches that rely on cyclone's pow~, and would also make it harder to import Max/MSP patches. Removing it is not a solution.
Okay. But I don't see why something that is a rather obvious breach of style should be allowed to bully the rest of the application. I have never used Max/MSP, but it seems like its (and cyclone's) [pow~] is really something more like an [exp~] with a changeable base.
Cyclone's overriding is pretty important for importing Max files. Without it I wouldn't have been able to port the RTC library that fast. Of course porting RTC involved replacing many objects with their Pd equivalents (and being a pd-vanilla fanboy, I mostly used builtins and abstractions for that). Other users may be fine with keeping Cyclone loaded and run the Max originals - freedom of choice is fine here.
Ciao
-- Frank
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