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| Subject: | Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: db2latex | |
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| From: | Michel Goossens (Mich...@cern.ch) | |
| Date: | Jul 24, 2001 7:44:44 am | |
| List: | org.oasis-open.lists.docbook-apps | |
Urgent work to be done today is:
1) Complete the XSL-FO part of Norm's stylesheets (as I said, tables need some work, since TeX's table model imposes constraints that make a general implementation quite involved).
I don't think Norm should be limited by what TeX can do. If we want TeX to survive, we have to make it do whats required. I am fairly sure that TeX's table handling should simply be abandoned, and tables built up of cells by hand
I did not say that we should be limited by the straightjacket of LaTeX. Thus, I accept that, if I decide for whatever reasons to use LaTeX, I might have to put some constraints on the DocBook (table) markup I can enter. Of course, son/daughter of TeX (Omega, NTS, TeX++) will give me all the tools to achieve what I need, one day...
2) expand xmltex (especialy the math bit)
xmltex is a dead end, unless someone can understand it, since its author will presumably not be developing it further
DC promised to have a look at it a few weeks back... I agree that for a general DTD writing the TeX macro code necessary to support it might not be a good investment. Yet for the presentation markup part of MathML, I still feel that such work would be useful, since it could be used together with any DTD (even TEI), since the MathML vocabulary is quite orthogonal to that of hierarchical DTDs.
3) complete db2latex (also in particular the math bit)
true, but that only solves the problem for Docbook
That's what the db of db2latex stands for, docbook :+}...
More seriously, the Math part of the XSLT stylesheets would be more generic (since orthogonal). We would have to write templates for handling all presentation markup MathML constructs in XSLT, which and this is probably not so easy as to parse it with xmltex. I really do not have a ready-made answer. Trying my hand at both approaches, I admit that I found problems with both methods for math of medium complexity.
I think that a coordination of the effort spent in all of these areas would be worthwhile to optimize resources.
true. if you think the TeX-based route has any real future.
Yes, but I want to typeset DocBook (TEI, eBook,...) documents containing Math today, not in three years. m
Dr. Michel Goossens Phone:(+41 22) 767-4902 CERN, IT Division Fax: (+41 22) 767-8630 CH-1211 Geneva 23, Switzerland Email: mich...@cern.ch






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