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30 messages in org.openldap.openldap-softwareRe: failover config: servers with sam...| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Emmanuel Dreyfus | Jul 23, 2007 6:50 am | |
| Quanah Gibson-Mount | Jul 23, 2007 11:01 am | |
| Emmanuel Dreyfus | Jul 23, 2007 1:09 pm | |
| Quanah Gibson-Mount | Jul 23, 2007 1:18 pm | |
| Russ Allbery | Jul 23, 2007 4:35 pm | |
| Christopher Cowart | Jul 23, 2007 7:40 pm | |
| Howard Chu | Jul 23, 2007 9:58 pm | |
| Emmanuel Dreyfus | Jul 24, 2007 1:02 am | |
| Howard Chu | Jul 24, 2007 1:54 am | |
| Emmanuel Dreyfus | Jul 24, 2007 12:18 pm | |
| Quanah Gibson-Mount | Jul 25, 2007 8:52 am | |
| Emmanuel Dreyfus | Jul 25, 2007 9:06 am | |
| Quanah Gibson-Mount | Jul 25, 2007 9:47 am | |
| Michael Ströder | Jul 25, 2007 9:53 am | |
| Emmanuel Dreyfus | Jul 25, 2007 10:36 am | |
| Quanah Gibson-Mount | Jul 25, 2007 10:46 am | |
| Howard Chu | Jul 25, 2007 2:31 pm | |
| Michael Ströder | Jul 25, 2007 2:38 pm | |
| Howard Chu | Jul 25, 2007 2:44 pm | |
| Russ Allbery | Jul 25, 2007 2:45 pm | |
| Norman Gaywood | Jul 25, 2007 3:04 pm | |
| Emmanuel Dreyfus | Jul 25, 2007 8:30 pm | |
| Emmanuel Dreyfus | Jul 25, 2007 8:31 pm | |
| Howard Chu | Jul 25, 2007 11:17 pm | |
| Ralf Haferkamp | Jul 26, 2007 1:27 am | |
| Emmanuel Dreyfus | Jul 26, 2007 4:04 am | |
| Emmanuel Dreyfus | Jul 26, 2007 4:04 am | |
| Donn Cave | Jul 26, 2007 9:38 am | |
| Ralf Haferkamp | Jul 26, 2007 11:46 am | |
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| Subject: | Re: failover config: servers with same DNS address and TLS, subjectAltName extension | Actions... |
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| From: | Quanah Gibson-Mount (qua...@zimbra.com) | |
| Date: | Jul 25, 2007 9:47:37 am | |
| List: | org.openldap.openldap-software | |
--On Wednesday, July 25, 2007 4:07 PM +0000 Emmanuel Dreyfus <ma...@netbsd.org> wrote:
On Wed, Jul 25, 2007 at 08:53:22AM -0700, Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote:
I hope people do some testing before rolling a copy/pasted configuration in production...
Experience shows they generally don't. Your posts will likely show up now in google searches by people who aren't really interested in going and actually reading documentation, and/or end up in some forsaken "how-to". :/
I hope so. I have been googling for a starting point without much success, hence the desire to add some information. Indeed iit's not perfect, but it's just a post in a mailing list, it's not a FAQ entry. And since people point out the mistakes in the thread, the curious reader should have everything needed at hand to succeed.
What do you prefer? 1) The beginner find hardly no information, gives up after 2 days of failures, and will claim everywhere that OpenLDAP is the most frustrating software he had to deal with
As pointed out by Howard multiple times, nearly everything you "couldn't find" was actually available online, in the form of published documentation, by the folks who provided the software. The fact that you went to Google *before* going to the sites that actually distribute the software and reading their documentation is unfortunately the same thing many other people do to. And then they tend to complain about the lack of documentation.
2) It finds some hints with follow-up comments and can either screw his setup by just copy/pasting without a though, or read the thread and find the missing pieces he needs by himself.
They'll screw up their set up, and then they'll send barages of email asking why things didn't work, because they expect it to work the first time, and then they'll go around claming that OpenLDAP or some other software is the most frustrating software to deal with because they get told to actually go read the documentation.
--Quanah
-- Quanah Gibson-Mount Principal Software Engineer Zimbra, Inc
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