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Subject:RE: [dss] Groups - dss-requirements-1.0-draft-02.doc uploaded
From:Gregor Karlinger (greg@cio.gv.at)
Date:Mar 30, 2003 11:07:54 am
List:org.oasis-open.lists.dss
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Nick & Trevor,

-----Original Message----- From: Nick Pope [mailto:po@secstan.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 8:49 PM To: Gregor Karlinger; robe@entrust.com; tre@trevp.net Cc: ML OASIS DSS Subject: RE: [dss] Groups - dss-requirements-1.0-draft-02.doc uploaded

Gregor,

My understanding that the particular feature which the first part of you message brings out is that: "style-sheets and other information needed to identify the specifics of a transform that may be applied to signed data needs to be included in the the manifest. This is particularly important where the the user requiring the signature views the transformed data."

This definition bears to flaws:

1. Transforms are not applied to signed data, but to the transforms process input data" (i.e. the data referred to by the URI attribute of dsig:Reference).

2. The relying party will *always* view the transforms process out- put data, since this is what is actually signed by the dsig signature.

I suggest therefore the following definition:

"For use cases where the relying party would like to check the relationship between the the 'transforms process input data' (which is the data he wants to operate on) and the 'transforms process output data' (which is the data the signing party has actually signed) all the information used by the signing party to compute the transforms process must be signed. Most of this information is included in a XMLDSIG signature anyway. However, there are some exceptions, for instance imported stylesheets referred to in an XSLT transform. Those additional information must be signed as well, for instance as part of a dsig:Manifest."

Is this OK? Do you want the original use case document updating to only keep the details relating to the Securing Transform use case?

Yes, the use case document should contain only the Securing transform use case. The requirements should be coved by the req document.

/Gregor