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| Heikki Suonsivu | Jul 28, 1997 9:33 pm | |
| Jan Koum | Jul 28, 1997 9:39 pm | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 28, 1997 9:49 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Jul 28, 1997 10:05 pm | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 28, 1997 10:14 pm | |
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| Vincent Poy | Jul 28, 1997 10:35 pm | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 28, 1997 10:37 pm | |
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| Gary Palmer | Jul 28, 1997 10:40 pm | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 28, 1997 10:44 pm | |
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| Vincent Poy | Jul 28, 1997 10:55 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Jul 28, 1997 10:59 pm | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 28, 1997 11:01 pm | |
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| Sergei S. Laskavy | Jul 29, 1997 12:13 am | |
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| Stephen D. Spencer | Jul 29, 1997 3:43 am | |
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| Rodney W. Grimes | Jul 29, 1997 8:58 am | |
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| Christopher Petrilli | Jul 29, 1997 9:52 am | |
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| Matthew Hunt | Jul 29, 1997 12:37 pm | |
| Christopher Petrilli | Jul 29, 1997 12:43 pm | |
| [Mario1-] | Jul 29, 1997 1:07 pm | |
| Garrett Wollman | Jul 29, 1997 1:07 pm | |
| [Mario1-] | Jul 29, 1997 1:14 pm | |
| sth...@nethelp.no | Jul 29, 1997 1:39 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Jul 29, 1997 2:23 pm | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 29, 1997 2:45 pm | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 29, 1997 2:57 pm | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 29, 1997 3:02 pm | |
| sth...@nethelp.no | Jul 29, 1997 3:30 pm | |
| Rocco Lucia | Jul 29, 1997 3:33 pm | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 29, 1997 3:44 pm | |
| Aaron Bornstein | Jul 29, 1997 3:44 pm | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 29, 1997 3:54 pm | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 29, 1997 4:00 pm | |
| Jay D. Nelson | Jul 29, 1997 5:29 pm | |
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| Jay D. Nelson | Jul 29, 1997 7:58 pm | |
| Jay D. Nelson | Jul 29, 1997 8:10 pm | |
| Michael Smith | Jul 29, 1997 8:25 pm | |
| Marco Molteni | Jul 30, 1997 5:04 am | |
| James Seng | Jul 30, 1997 5:31 am | |
| Alex G. Bulushev | Jul 30, 1997 5:59 am | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 30, 1997 6:45 am | |
| Robert Watson | Jul 30, 1997 7:03 am | |
| Nate Williams | Jul 30, 1997 7:48 am | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 30, 1997 7:54 am | |
| Nate Williams | Jul 30, 1997 8:06 am | |
| Nate Williams | Jul 30, 1997 8:13 am | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 30, 1997 8:28 am | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 30, 1997 8:33 am | |
| zoonie | Jul 30, 1997 9:09 am | |
| Poul-Henning Kamp | Jul 30, 1997 9:25 am | |
| Poul-Henning Kamp | Jul 30, 1997 9:31 am | |
| John-David Childs | Jul 30, 1997 10:17 am | |
| Ian Kallen | Jul 30, 1997 10:37 am | |
| Patrick Gilbert | Jul 30, 1997 11:43 am | |
| Jay D. Nelson | Jul 30, 1997 1:52 pm | |
| [Mario1-] | Jul 30, 1997 2:06 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Jul 30, 1997 3:53 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Jul 30, 1997 4:04 pm | |
| yossman | Jul 30, 1997 4:20 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Jul 30, 1997 4:24 pm | |
| Peter Korsten | Jul 30, 1997 4:43 pm | |
| Michael Smith | Jul 30, 1997 8:01 pm | |
| Cy Schubert | Jul 30, 1997 9:10 pm | |
| FreeBSD Technical Reader | Jul 30, 1997 11:18 pm | |
| Marco Molteni | Jul 31, 1997 5:24 am | |
| yossman | Jul 31, 1997 9:00 am | |
| Adam Shostack | Jul 31, 1997 9:19 am | |
| Marc Slemko | Jul 31, 1997 11:23 am | |
| Andrew | Aug 1, 1997 10:00 pm | |
| Dmitry Kohmanyuk | Aug 1, 1997 10:32 pm | |
| Philippe Regnauld | Aug 2, 1997 1:46 pm | |
| Subject: | Re: securelevel (was: Re: security hole in FreeBSD) | |
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| From: | Vincent Poy (vin...@mail.MCESTATE.COM) | |
| Date: | Jul 29, 1997 3:54:19 pm | |
| List: | org.freebsd.freebsd-security | |
On Tue, 29 Jul 1997, Aaron Bornstein wrote:
=)[Cc list trimmed, I'm assuming most of those people are on the list -- AB] =) =) Great, now you've effectively given everyone who sniffs your =)connection instant root access, no extra passwords necessary. Using =)screen in this manner merely opens another path to root, through an =)account not afforded anywhere near the same protection by the operating =)system.
If someone was sniffing my connection, then why weren't any of my screen sessions touched? I spend more time on the computer than most people would. As everyone knows, I only sleep 2-3 hours per day.
=)> another machine and tracked him down and killed his connection. jbhunt =)> was running a portscanner to check for any daemons running on a higher =)> port number but didn't find any. =)> =) Don't forget the possibility of an exisiting daemon (such as =)telnetd or ftpd) being modified slightly to allow remote access root =)access to a certain site or (more likely) anyone who presents the proper =)backdoor phrase/environment variable. [I believe JKH mentioned this =)already]
That is always a possibility ofcourse. Or they can install some daemon at a port.
=)> True but the problem is we wished we had console access. If we =)> did, none of this would even happened I think. =)> =) Bullshit. If console access was available, the only portion of =)this process that would be made easier is the cleanup. Console access =)does not significantly raise your chances of -preventing- attacks.
If console access was available, how would the sniffer sniff the console? since that would not go through the network in the first place.
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