| From | Sent On | Attachments |
|---|---|---|
| Tim Bray | Feb 6, 2002 8:42 pm | |
| David Orchard | Feb 6, 2002 10:00 pm | |
| Jacek Kopecky | Feb 7, 2002 3:02 am | |
| Elliotte Rusty Harold | Feb 7, 2002 4:14 am | |
| Elliotte Rusty Harold | Feb 7, 2002 4:17 am | |
| Elliotte Rusty Harold | Feb 7, 2002 4:28 am | |
| Elliotte Rusty Harold | Feb 7, 2002 4:51 am | |
| Tim Bray | Feb 7, 2002 10:12 am | |
| Tim Bray | Feb 7, 2002 10:13 am | |
| Piotr Kaminski | Feb 8, 2002 4:34 am | |
| Tim Berners-Lee | Feb 12, 2002 12:03 pm | |
| Paul Prescod | Feb 12, 2002 2:21 pm | |
| Norman Walsh | Feb 12, 2002 2:29 pm | |
| Dan Connolly | Feb 12, 2002 2:33 pm | |
| Simon St.Laurent | Feb 12, 2002 3:05 pm | |
| Simon St.Laurent | Feb 12, 2002 3:46 pm | |
| Martin Duerst | Feb 12, 2002 4:00 pm | |
| Jacek Kopecky | Feb 13, 2002 4:53 am | |
| Norman Walsh | Feb 13, 2002 7:00 am | |
| Jacek Kopecky | Feb 13, 2002 7:40 am | |
| Elliotte Rusty Harold | Feb 13, 2002 8:07 am | |
| Norman Walsh | Feb 13, 2002 8:14 am | |
| Jacek Kopecky | Feb 13, 2002 10:05 am | |
| Paul Prescod | Feb 13, 2002 10:27 am | |
| MURATA Makoto | Feb 13, 2002 6:12 pm | |
| Rick Jelliffe | Feb 13, 2002 11:38 pm | |
| Norman Walsh | Feb 14, 2002 6:07 am | |
| Jun Fujisawa | Feb 16, 2002 5:44 am | |
| Tim Berners-Lee | Feb 22, 2002 7:56 am | |
| Eric van der Vlist | Feb 22, 2002 8:07 am | |
| Eric van der Vlist | Feb 23, 2002 1:23 am | |
| Piotr Kaminski | Feb 23, 2002 3:18 am | |
| Elliotte Rusty Harold | Feb 23, 2002 9:06 am | |
| Paul Prescod | Feb 23, 2002 9:31 am | |
| Eric van der Vlist | Feb 23, 2002 12:01 pm | |
| Piotr Kaminski | Feb 23, 2002 3:47 pm | |
| Elliotte Rusty Harold | Feb 23, 2002 4:26 pm | |
| Piotr Kaminski | Feb 23, 2002 5:21 pm | |
| Elliotte Rusty Harold | Feb 23, 2002 7:36 pm | |
| Tim Berners-Lee | Mar 4, 2002 11:40 am | |
| Tim Berners-Lee | Mar 4, 2002 1:14 pm | |
| Rick Jelliffe | Mar 25, 2002 7:00 am |
| Subject: | Re: PIs considered harmful Was: XML-SW, a thought experiment | |
|---|---|---|
| From: | Martin Duerst (due...@w3.org) | |
| Date: | Feb 12, 2002 4:00:44 pm | |
| List: | org.w3.www-tag | |
Hello Simon,
I think there is a big difference between abolishing PIs (as suggested by Tim) and not (anymore) using PIs in W3C Recommendations. I personally hope that, as indicated in the xml-stylesheet recommendation, no future W3C REC will ever need to use them. As to whether to actually completely abolish them or not, I haven't made up my mind, but I guess I agree with Dan, and would even go one step further in saying that the cost of even worrying whether we should abolish them or not may be too high.
Regards, Martin.
At 18:46 02/02/12 -0500, Simon St.Laurent wrote:
On Tue, 2002-02-12 at 17:33, Dan Connolly wrote:
What "institutional animus"? Don't lump us all in one pile. How many "imo"s does TimBL need to use before you'll let him speak for himself?
TimBL didn't need to say anything for me to believe there was an institutional animus at the W3C against processing instructions.
I've been told a number of times that this was the 'final W3C word' on processing instructions, though phrased rather politely:
--------------- http://www.w3.org/TR/xml-stylesheet/
The use of XML processing instructions in this specification should not be taken as a precedent. The W3C does not anticipate recommending the use of processing instructions in any future specification. The Rationale explains why they were used in this specification. ---------------
Along with the excuse for using them IN THIS CASE: ---------------- http://www.w3.org/TR/xml-stylesheet/#rationale
There was an urgent requirement for a specification for style sheet linking that could be completed in time for the next release from major browser vendors. Only by choosing a simple mechanism closely based on a proven existing mechanism could the specification be completed in time to meet this requirement.
Use of a processing instruction avoids polluting the main document structure with application specific processing information.
The mechanism chosen for this version of the specification is not a constraint on the additional mechanisms planned for future versions. There is no expectation that these will use processing instructions; indeed they may not include the linking information in the source document. -----------------
The animus has also been noted quite regularly on xml-dev.
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