78 messages in org.apache.tomcat.devRe: Move to Maven? (WAS: Re: Publishi...| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Antonio Petrelli | Dec 17, 2011 12:24 pm | |
| Mark Thomas | Dec 17, 2011 12:47 pm | |
| David Jencks | Dec 17, 2011 1:11 pm | |
| Mark Thomas | Dec 17, 2011 1:58 pm | |
| Mark Thomas | Dec 17, 2011 2:52 pm | |
| David Jencks | Dec 17, 2011 4:05 pm | |
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| Caldarale, Charles R | Dec 19, 2011 6:40 am | |
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| Olivier Lamy | Dec 19, 2011 6:56 am | |
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| David Jencks | Dec 19, 2011 10:47 am | |
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| Henri Gomez | Dec 19, 2011 11:56 am | |
| Romain Manni-Bucau | Dec 19, 2011 11:58 am | |
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| David Jencks | Dec 19, 2011 7:20 pm | |
| Mladen Turk | Dec 19, 2011 10:56 pm | |
| mar...@apache.org | Dec 19, 2011 11:31 pm | |
| David Jencks | Dec 19, 2011 11:58 pm | |
| Romain Manni-Bucau | Dec 20, 2011 12:00 am | |
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| Antonio Petrelli | Dec 20, 2011 1:54 am | |
| Mark Thomas | Dec 20, 2011 2:10 am | |
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| Mark Thomas | Dec 20, 2011 3:22 am | |
| Mark Thomas | Dec 20, 2011 3:32 am | |
| Mark Thomas | Dec 20, 2011 3:34 am | |
| Antonio Petrelli | Dec 20, 2011 3:40 am | |
| Antonio Petrelli | Dec 20, 2011 3:52 am | |
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| Romain Manni-Bucau | Dec 20, 2011 4:52 am | |
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| Leon Rosenberg | Dec 21, 2011 12:52 am | |
| Olivier Lamy | Dec 21, 2011 12:34 pm | |
| Jean-Baptiste Onofré | Dec 21, 2011 12:37 pm | |
| Mladen Turk | Dec 21, 2011 1:21 pm | |
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| Mark Thomas | Dec 21, 2011 2:34 pm | |
| Olivier Lamy | Dec 22, 2011 5:24 am | |
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| Christopher Schultz | Dec 22, 2011 7:14 am | |
| Olivier Lamy | Dec 23, 2011 12:51 am | |
| Mark Thomas | Dec 23, 2011 3:41 am | |
| Olivier Lamy | Dec 23, 2011 4:58 am | |
| Mark Thomas | Dec 23, 2011 5:19 am | |
| Olivier Lamy | Dec 23, 2011 7:13 am | |
| Mark Thomas | Dec 23, 2011 7:58 am | |
| Jean-Baptiste Onofré | Dec 27, 2011 8:12 am |
| Subject: | Re: Move to Maven? (WAS: Re: Publishing process for JARs for Maven Central) | |
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| From: | Mark Thomas (mar...@apache.org) | |
| Date: | Dec 20, 2011 3:22:02 am | |
| List: | org.apache.tomcat.dev | |
On 20/12/2011 07:58, David Jencks wrote:
I think the benefit might be more on the order of encouraging people who ask "where did this jar come from-- I wanna fix something". For people familiar with maven, there is IMO a much higher barrier to contributing to tomcat than a well-structured maven project.
I'm not sure I agree with this one. I think when folks find a bug they don't know which JAR the bug is in. A little debugging will (hopefully) tell them which class rather than which JAR the bug is in. Finding that class in a single source tree is arguably easier than trying to find it in multiple source trees. I do agree that compiling a fixed version of the JAR will be easier using Maven, if the user understands Maven but then we are back to folks that know Maven find Maven easier whereas folks that don't know Maven, find Maven harder.
I agree that we need to have as low a barrier to entry as possible. The work that has been done on the build scripts has improved things significantly since I started work on Tomcat. I can hardly believe how much of a pain building a Tomcat 4.1.x release was compared to how easy 7.0.x is.
Where I disagree is on whether a switch to Maven lowers that barrier to entry. I agree it lowers it for folks that already know Maven but don't know Ant but that it raises it for folks that know Ant but don't know Maven.
(BTW I must add that I'm delighted that the tomcat community seems much more receptive to outside input than it did several years ago -- community unfriendliness seems to be totally missing now :-) ).
That is good.
Mark