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| 19 earlier messages | ||
| Joerg Reisenweber | Sep 16, 2008 2:28 pm | |
| Andy Green | Sep 17, 2008 1:41 am | |
| Joerg Reisenweber | Sep 17, 2008 8:27 am | |
| Andy Green | Sep 17, 2008 8:55 am | |
| Joerg Reisenweber | Sep 17, 2008 10:11 am | |
| Angus Ainslie | Sep 17, 2008 12:00 pm | |
| Andrew Bruno | Sep 17, 2008 1:04 pm | |
| Werner Almesberger | Sep 17, 2008 3:04 pm | |
| Joerg Reisenweber | Sep 17, 2008 5:39 pm | |
| Werner Almesberger | Sep 17, 2008 9:27 pm | |
| Torsten Sievers | Sep 17, 2008 11:00 pm | |
| Uwe Klein | Sep 18, 2008 12:54 am | |
| Andy Green | Sep 18, 2008 1:51 am | |
| Joerg Reisenweber | Sep 19, 2008 10:14 am | |
| Werner Almesberger | Sep 19, 2008 10:58 am | |
| Joerg Reisenweber | Sep 19, 2008 11:17 am | |
| Joerg Reisenweber | Sep 19, 2008 11:35 am | |
| Werner Almesberger | Sep 19, 2008 12:41 pm | |
| Florian Zeitz | Sep 19, 2008 1:23 pm | |
| Werner Almesberger | Sep 19, 2008 1:56 pm | |
| Esben Stien | Sep 19, 2008 2:22 pm | |
| Joerg Reisenweber | Sep 20, 2008 8:33 am | |
| Andy Green | Sep 20, 2008 8:35 am | |
| Joerg Reisenweber | Sep 20, 2008 9:00 am | |
| Andy Green | Sep 20, 2008 9:07 am | |
| Werner Almesberger | Sep 20, 2008 1:13 pm | |
| Werner Almesberger | Sep 20, 2008 1:19 pm | |
| Werner Almesberger | Sep 20, 2008 1:31 pm | |
| Joerg Reisenweber | Sep 20, 2008 2:15 pm | |
| Werner Almesberger | Sep 20, 2008 2:45 pm | |
| Joerg Reisenweber | Sep 20, 2008 3:10 pm | |
| Werner Almesberger | Sep 20, 2008 5:54 pm | |
| Andy Green | Sep 21, 2008 1:13 am | |
| Uwe Klein | Sep 21, 2008 1:47 am | |
| Andy Green | Sep 21, 2008 2:10 am | |
| Uwe Klein | Sep 21, 2008 2:27 am | |
| Andy Green | Sep 21, 2008 2:41 am | |
| Werner Almesberger | Sep 21, 2008 6:29 am | |
| Uwe Klein | Sep 21, 2008 6:36 am | |
| Werner Almesberger | Sep 21, 2008 7:18 am | |
| Werner Almesberger | Sep 21, 2008 7:22 am | |
| Joerg Reisenweber | Sep 21, 2008 3:18 pm | |
| Joerg Reisenweber | Sep 21, 2008 3:55 pm | |
| Joerg Reisenweber | Sep 21, 2008 4:33 pm | |
| Joerg Reisenweber | Sep 21, 2008 4:42 pm | |
| Werner Almesberger | Sep 21, 2008 4:51 pm | |
| Joerg Reisenweber | Sep 21, 2008 6:08 pm | |
| Torsten Sievers | Sep 21, 2008 11:32 pm | |
| Andy Green | Sep 22, 2008 2:34 am | |
| Andy Green | Sep 22, 2008 2:46 am | |
| Uwe Klein | Sep 22, 2008 5:37 am | |
| Werner Almesberger | Sep 22, 2008 5:41 am | |
| Andy Green | Sep 22, 2008 5:47 am | |
| Uwe Klein | Sep 22, 2008 5:52 am | |
| Joerg Reisenweber | Sep 22, 2008 6:34 am | |
| Uwe Klein | Sep 22, 2008 6:54 am | |
| Andy Green | Sep 22, 2008 7:03 am | |
| Andy Green | Sep 22, 2008 7:10 am | |
| Andy Green | Sep 22, 2008 7:21 am | |
| Uwe Klein | Sep 22, 2008 8:12 am | |
| Joerg Reisenweber | Sep 22, 2008 9:04 am | |
| Joerg Reisenweber | Sep 22, 2008 9:14 am | |
| Uwe Klein | Sep 22, 2008 9:18 am | |
| Joerg Reisenweber | Sep 22, 2008 9:48 am | |
| Andy Green | Sep 22, 2008 9:49 am | |
| Joerg Reisenweber | Sep 22, 2008 11:09 am | |
| Werner Almesberger | Sep 22, 2008 3:41 pm | |
| Andy Green | Sep 22, 2008 4:02 pm | |
| Werner Almesberger | Sep 22, 2008 4:11 pm | |
| Andy Green | Sep 23, 2008 2:29 am | |
| Werner Almesberger | Sep 28, 2008 7:38 pm | |
| Andy Green | Sep 29, 2008 12:53 am | |
| Florian Zeitz | Sep 29, 2008 9:20 am | |
| Andy Green | Sep 29, 2008 9:51 am | |
| Florian Zeitz | Sep 29, 2008 10:08 am | |
| Joerg Reisenweber | Sep 29, 2008 11:34 am | |
| Werner Almesberger | Sep 30, 2008 5:48 pm | |
| Joerg Reisenweber | Sep 30, 2008 8:34 pm | |
| Torsten Sievers | Oct 9, 2008 12:25 am | |
| shaw...@gmail.com | Oct 12, 2008 5:03 pm | |
| Joerg Reisenweber | Oct 12, 2008 5:18 pm | |
| Joerg Reisenweber | Oct 12, 2008 5:43 pm | |
| Ole Kliemann | Oct 29, 2008 10:15 am | |
| Angus Ainslie | Oct 29, 2008 10:37 am | |
| Joerg Reisenweber | Oct 30, 2008 3:11 am | |
| MarcO'Chapeau | Oct 30, 2008 3:18 am | |
| Joerg Reisenweber | Oct 30, 2008 6:30 am | |
| Alastair Johnson | Oct 30, 2008 7:12 am | |
| Angus Ainslie | Oct 30, 2008 7:34 am | |
| Ole Kliemann | Oct 30, 2008 7:49 am | |
| Joerg Reisenweber | Oct 30, 2008 8:29 am | |
| Andy Green | Oct 30, 2008 7:18 pm | |
| Angus Ainslie | Oct 31, 2008 12:24 pm | |
| Joerg Reisenweber | Oct 31, 2008 12:45 pm | |
| Joerg Reisenweber | Oct 31, 2008 12:53 pm | |
| Angus Ainslie | Oct 31, 2008 1:04 pm | |
| Angus Ainslie | Oct 31, 2008 1:23 pm | |
| Joerg Reisenweber | Oct 31, 2008 1:26 pm | |
| Angus Ainslie | Oct 31, 2008 2:00 pm | |
| Angus Ainslie | Oct 31, 2008 2:15 pm | |
| 2 later messages | ||
| Subject: | Re: GSM-noise "buzz" issue | |
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| From: | Andy Green (an...@openmoko.com) | |
| Date: | Sep 22, 2008 2:46:08 am | |
| List: | org.openmoko.lists.hardware | |
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
|> You would think it also depends on output power from our RF section; it |> might be worth trying with "piece of wire" antenna to force it to use |> highest transmit power if otherwise your base station is close. | | Using "piece of wire" might serve well to spoil SWR of transmitter, thus | reducing antenna gain. So it's correct BTS will advice MT to increase ...
I dunno if that is the case or not, but I do know the GSM system on the board will act differently at power using $WIRE rather than the intended antenna, and we can get a clue about what goes on by rattling as many doorhandles as possible. It certainly means something that the buzz still comes happily or put another way we would be very interested if the buzz stopped coming with $WIRE.
|> If it isn't that you are using low power, that's pretty interesting, it |> couples at 1.7GHz but not 1.8 - 1.9GHz then. It seems something we are |> missing is frequency response of the radiated coupling to the victim net. | That's why I asked for it some mails ago, so we had an idea which frequencies | are the ones GTA02 is sensitive to. | Though the result wouldn't probably change anything about proposed fix, which | is to place beads/EMI-filters there on JK4401, and please do it as soon as | possible.
I looked at this last night, but my setup is too crap to get a sensible result. All I have around is some old scope probes terminating in BNC, so I cut one off and used that cable from the tracking generator (it's like 2V p-p) first for radiated coupling I placed the insulated core up the inside of the headset jack and looked on MICBIAS with the spectrum analyser via another scope probe, then secondly I placed the tracking generator output directly on pin 4 of the jack and looked at MICBIAS and surrounding components.
But presumably because these scope probes and cables were only rated for 100MHz, just kinking the wire or moving the leads around totally changed the response far more than what I was measuring. I dunno if I should terminate the lead to 50R, via a cap, no idea how to improve it at the moment. I think it will be very interesting to meet Uwe and his guys.
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