|Marco Sambin - NeoLogica||Sep 6, 2007 8:16 am|
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|robert engels||Nov 2, 2007 3:19 pm|
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|robert engels||Nov 2, 2007 3:34 pm|
|robert engels||Nov 2, 2007 3:39 pm|
|Bob Deen||Nov 2, 2007 4:01 pm|
|robert engels||Nov 2, 2007 4:19 pm|
|Bob Deen||Nov 2, 2007 6:16 pm|
|robert engels||Nov 3, 2007 12:28 am|
|Marco Sambin - NeoLogica||Nov 5, 2007 12:39 am|
|jai-...@javadesktop.org||Nov 5, 2007 5:12 pm|
|Bob Deen||Nov 5, 2007 6:07 pm|
|jai-...@javadesktop.org||Nov 6, 2007 5:00 pm|
|Marco Sambin - NeoLogica||Nov 20, 2007 10:04 am|
|jai-...@javadesktop.org||Feb 4, 2008 11:47 pm|
|Marco Sambin - NeoLogica||Feb 5, 2008 12:47 am|
|Fabrizio Giudici||Feb 6, 2008 12:04 am|
|Marco Sambin - NeoLogica||Feb 6, 2008 1:01 am|
|fabr...@tidalwave.it||Feb 6, 2008 3:35 am|
|Bob Deen||Feb 6, 2008 9:59 am|
|Brian Burkhalter||Feb 6, 2008 10:07 am|
|robert engels||Feb 6, 2008 10:10 am|
|Brian Burkhalter||Feb 6, 2008 10:16 am|
|robert engels||Feb 6, 2008 10:24 am|
|Brian Burkhalter||Feb 6, 2008 10:28 am|
|robert engels||Feb 6, 2008 10:33 am|
|Brian Burkhalter||Feb 6, 2008 10:50 am|
|jai-...@javadesktop.org||Mar 10, 2008 6:50 am|
|Subject:||Re: [JAI-IMAGEIO] Mac OS X native version of JIIO|
|From:||Bob Deen (Bob....@jpl.nasa.gov)|
|Date:||Feb 6, 2008 9:59:30 am|
I agree. Sun should not bother trying to get Apple to do this. It's like getting Microsoft to do the Windows build. Why should Microsoft care? They don't - which is why Sun does it. Same philosophy should apply towards Apple.
It's a bit different when you're talking about the JDK... I'd really rather Sun did that for the Mac too, but it requires a lot more knowledge of the intricacies of Mac OS, so I understand wanting to let Apple do it - as long as they actually *do* (they're a bit behind). But for a value-added product like JAI and IIO Tools, there really is no Mac-specific knowledge required... once you can build on Linux and Solaris, you're 95% of the way to building on Mac too.
I certainly understand the resource constraints though... the JAI team is quite small from what I understand. They may not have time to manage a Mac build. So, another alternative is to release the native library source, and let the community do it. That's been talked about for a long time, but for whatever reason it hasn't happened. Assuming there are some kind of license issues with that, a middle ground might be to accept a volunteer from the community to do the Mac build. Sun could then send them - and them only - the source under some kind of nondisclosure, let them build it, then post the result back for everyone. That could sidestep any legal issues w.r.t. opening the source. I'm sure there would be no shortage of volunteers, given the traffic on this list. ;-)
Bob Deen @ NASA-JPL Multimission Image Processing Lab Bob....@jpl.nasa.gov
Yes, sorry for my cryptic response, I should sleep longer in these days. Here is my sentence rephrased:
Forget about Apple's port. It's best to lobby Sun for take care of the porting.
And I add, to explain better: with Apple any hope of at least getting an explanation of what's going on is dead (not only for JAI, but for everything which is not an iPod). Let's politely lobby Sun - that is : let's insist in asking - since I expect a better behaviour from them with respect to users.
----- Original Message ----- Da : "Marco Sambin - NeoLogica" <marc...@neologica.it> A : <inte...@jai-imageio.dev.java.net> Oggetto : RE: [JAI-IMAGEIO] Mac OS X native version of JIIO Data : Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:01:26 +0100
actually the explanation "the development of the Mac OS X native version of JIIO is stuck due to non-technical reasons" came from the Sun development team (not from Apple), so I asked if those "non-technical reasons" were due to licensing issues towards Apple, which is blocking Sun from developing the Mac OS X native version themselves.
On 05/feb/08, at 09:47, Marco Sambin - NeoLogica wrote:
if I remember correctly, the last official answer about the Mac OS X native version of JIIO library was that "the development was stuck due to non-technical reasons". May we know if these "non-technical reasons" are somehow related to licensing issues with Apple?
In other words: forget it. It's best to lobby Sun for take care of the porting.
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