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Makoto MatsushitaJun 20, 2002 9:57 pm 
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Dag-Erling SmorgravJun 24, 2002 2:59 pm 
Subject:Re: Installing XFree86 package via sysinstall: need X wrapper or not?
From:Makoto Matsushita (matu@jp.FreeBSD.org)
Date:Jun 23, 2002 8:26:27 am
List:org.freebsd.freebsd-arch

des> Yes, there is: it's a setuid binary. It shouldn't be installed des> unless it's needed.

The X wrapper should be installed for startx users, and we can't deduce who want to use it.

Let me clarify the point again:

Background: 1) In XFree86 3.x, the non-root users of startx(1) kick X server without any setups, since X server is a setuid binary. 2) In XFree86 4.x, the non-root users of startx(1) cannot kick X server, since X server is no longer setuid binary.

Note that most of users doesn't know X server has setuid bit or not.

Current situations: 3) The startx users think that XFree86 4.2 is broken, X server can't start. FreeBSD bundles XFree86 4.2. As a result, they says "Latest FreeBSD's X server is broken."

How to solve: 4a) Write documents, to explain that "startx users should install X wrapper separately, since sysinstall doesn't automatically install the wrapper." 4b) Install X wrapper after XFree86 installation is finished. 4c) Add X wrapper itself into XFree86 meta-port. 4d) Do nothing.

Current situation is 4d), I propose 4b) in the last email, and some others suggests 4c).

How do you think about this, des? I don't want to talk about xdm/pam breakage or something like that; I want to talk about (backward compatibility?) issues for startx users.

-- - Makoto `MAR' Matsushita

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