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| Subject: | Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels | |
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| From: | Daniel C. Sobral (dc...@newsguy.com) | |
| Date: | Jul 12, 2000 4:35:03 am | |
| List: | org.freebsd.freebsd-stable | |
Greg Lehey wrote:
1. Before building, it removes the existing kernel build tree. There's no good reason for this.
make buildkernel -DNOCLEAN
No, that makes clean the default, and that's wrong.
The defaults being wrong is a very different problem.
See also:
# -DNO_KERNELCONFIG do not run config in ${MAKE} buildkernel # -DNO_KERNELDEPEND do not run ${MAKE} depend in ${MAKE} buildkernel
That's broken too. The whole idea of make is that you don't need to do a make clean under normal circumstances. But we're used to that when building a world.
See above. :-)
Yes. We could agree to change the tree to /usr/obj, but it should be consistent whichever way you do it. In the process we should also use obj symlinks like other BSDs use:
=== grog@wantadilla (/dev/ttyp5) ~ 1 -> cd /src/OpenBSD/src/sbin/fsck === grog@wantadilla (/dev/ttyp5) /src/OpenBSD/src/sbin/fsck 2 -> l total 1 drwxr-xr-x 2 grog lemis 512 Apr 17 1999 CVS -rw-r--r-- 1 grog lemis 171 Sep 22 1997 Makefile -r--r--r-- 1 grog lemis 421 Apr 18 1999 TRANS.TBL -rw-r--r-- 1 grog lemis 3616 Mar 25 1999 fsck.8 -rw-r--r-- 1 grog lemis 10548 Feb 28 1997 fsck.c -rw-r--r-- 1 grog lemis 6034 Sep 9 1997 fsutil.c -rw-r--r-- 1 grog lemis 2714 Oct 20 1996 fsutil.h lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 18 May 28 20:20 obj -> /usr/obj/sbin/fsck -rw-r--r-- 1 grog lemis 1857 Oct 20 1996 pathnames.h -rw-r--r-- 1 grog lemis 8734 Mar 25 1999 preen.c
Oh, I *like* that! But it prevents one from using RO /usr/src.
These two points mean that if you later want to go back and tune your kernel (change a driver parameter, say), you can't just do a config; cd ../../compile/FOO; make, you have to go the whole nine yards.
See #1.
OK. See point 1.
The defaults being wrong don't prevent you from being *capable* of just tuning your kernel. In fact, I'm used to do that using buildkernel.
Personally, I prefer different names, even though it annoyed the hell out of me at first. Until I changed my /boot/loader.conf :).
Peter recently removed the possibility of different kernel names from config(8). I assume this is now done by a rename. At least we should agree whether the idea of differently named kernels is good or bad.
Well, at least that way I can name my kernel configuration file "vmunix", and then the kernel will be built and installed with the proper name. :-)
4. It's just plain clumsy.
MMmmm? In what way? A single command line does all the work for me, including variations on running config, with and without -r, and making depend or not.
Right, but you need to specify the name of the kernel. That's clumsy in my book.
You don't. You set it on /etc/make.conf. I do, anyway.
-- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dc...@newsguy.com dc...@freebsd.org ca...@the.great.underground.bsdconpiracy.org
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